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Old 03-20-2013, 07:16 PM
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Intial posting was for 669 vacancies and 612 surpluses.
Looks like the result was 584 AE and 626 displacements.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
For DAL folks non-reving on Pinnacle is it straight DOH between all the same category of DAL folks? More specifically, do current DAL employees all travel on the same status?

I am on a mainline flight that connects to Pinnacle. Mainline wide open - Pinnacle a few seats. I don't think a S-2 would do any good (or can be used even if I anted to) since the mainline flight is wide open.

Does this sound about right?

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Hey Scoop,

Just did some scouting for you on DeltaNet (at home bored with a new born). Looks like you guys go S3 on all DCI flights except for Skywest and Expressjet (ASA) where you go S3C. This is because of Skywest's agreement with Delta that puts DAL employees behind Skywest employees on Skywest Inc. metal. On Pinnacle you will go S3 just as Pinnacles employees do, so DOH is the determining factor. All other DCI employees will go S3C on Pinnacle. I don't think S2s work at all on DCI anymore. At Compass we used to get six S2s per year and traveled S3 on DAL as well, prior to the sale. Hope this helps.

Cliff note version: You will be S3 on pinnacle (not S3C) and I'm 90% sure your S2 won't work.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
Intial posting was for 669 vacancies and 612 surpluses.
Looks like the result was 584 AE and 626 displacements.
They left 25 717B, 5 DTW 73NA, 10 DTW 73NB, and 7 NYC 73NB positions unfilled. Plus a smattering of others (ATL M88B, CVG, etc). Grand total net vacancies of 53.

Are we properly staffed yet?
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Drama
Hey Scoop,

Just did some scouting for you on DeltaNet (at home bored with a new born). Looks like you guys go S3 on all DCI flights except for Skywest and Expressjet (ASA) where you go S3C. This is because of Skywest's agreement with Delta that puts DAL employees behind Skywest employees on Skywest Inc. metal. On Pinnacle you will go S3 just as Pinnacles employees do, so DOH is the determining factor. All other DCI employees will go S3C on Pinnacle. I don't think S2s work at all on DCI anymore. At Compass we used to get six S2s per year and traveled S3 on DAL as well, prior to the sale. Hope this helps.

Cliff note version: You will be S3 on pinnacle (not S3C) and I'm 90% sure your S2 won't work.
Good info, thanks for the work! Guess I'm commuting on SKW too much, I thought it was all S3C. One other nice bit of info with new contract-- you can book a deviate from DH on DCI now, before it was just mainline.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
They left 25 717B, 5 DTW 73NA, 10 DTW 73NB, and 7 NYC 73NB positions unfilled. Plus a smattering of others (ATL M88B, CVG, etc). Grand total net vacancies of 53.

Are we properly staffed yet?
Maybe. Is there a reason they didn't fill those spots? I mean did they not have people bid DTW73NA?

I say as long as we're not hiring, we're properly or overly staffed (as far as they are concerned).
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:13 PM
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carl could ya not retire? really?
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
They left 25 717B, 5 DTW 73NA, 10 DTW 73NB, and 7 NYC 73NB positions unfilled. Plus a smattering of others (ATL M88B, CVG, etc). Grand total net vacancies of 53.

Are we properly staffed yet?
Any bets on how many times "overstaffed" is mentioned in the May resources memo?

Thank about how many more displacements it would have taken to fill those positions... By the grace and attempt at minimizing training at Crew Resources we go... This could have gone from marginally positive as it is now to "meh" to downright painful had they forced into those positions (except the 73NA)
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fartboxflyer
carl could ya not retire? really?
Homeboy is one young whale captain. He's got a few more years flying SpackleAir d.b.a Delta.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:16 PM
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please tell us what a frozen pension pays?
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
Intial posting was for 669 vacancies and 612 surpluses.
Looks like the result was 584 AE and 626 displacements.
So more displacements than AEs. What if we were buying 88 DC9-30s instead of 88 DC9-30s.

Wait.

What if we were buying 88 DC9-30s instead of 88 more modern DC9-30s? SJS? Guilty? Me? Trust me, watching a buddy on the DC9 made me think about the 9 a lot. I didn't want to spend weeks in training in MSP though with young kids though. And the 88 is hot enough in the sum... the 88 rocks. If I were thinking of 88 or 717, I'd go 88. Better pay. Better jet already currently on property. No waiting. If you want to fly Douglas, big MD88.
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