Because I was bored and like you guys so much...

Here's some quick schematics on the award.

581 total AEs, 157 to same paying equipment, 160 to lower paying equipment, 264 to higher paying equipment.

552 total MDs, 210 to same paying equipment, 132 to lower paying equipment, and 210 to higher paying equipment.

74 total VDs, 54 to same paying equipment, 12 to lower paying equipment, and 8 to higher paying equipment.

For a sum of 1207 awards, 421 to same paying equipment, 304 to lower paying equipment, and 482 to higher paying equipment.

(equipment and seat are interchangeable - for example, they'd get a raise going from DTW 744 F/O to ATL 717 A)

For the 717A, of 145 total positions, 102 were covered by AE, the majority coming from ATL 7ER FO (37), and the next highest bunch coming from ATLM88 CA (27). 43 came to 717A via MD. The majority (23) coming from ATL DC9 CA, and from ATL 767 FO (12)

For the 717B, of the 120 total positions, 77 were covered by AE, the majority coming from, you guessed it, ATL M88 FO (53). The next highest "funder" was DTW 320 FOs, with a whopping 4. 43 also came to 717B via MD. The majority (26) coming from ATL DC9 B, and 12 coming from DTW DC9 FO.

Any other questions, hit me before my Pivot Table blows up my poor laptop.

So you're saying this wasn't a bid where the majority of people were displaced to lower paying equipment?

03-20-2013, 06:57 PM

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johnso29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Ironically by most of them going to lower paying positions.

I guess they got mind ninja'd into funding the 717 category.

Well....they are getting the summer off.

03-20-2013, 07:00 PM

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SailorJerry

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Originally Posted by DLpilot

According to the analysis, the category with the most upward movement was ATL 88B. I move up about 35.

There was some good movement there. 41 off with a global seniority of 5681 (the most junior being 7911, the most senior being 2792) . 41 on with a global seniority of 6981 (the most junior being 7589, the most senior being 5488).

03-20-2013, 07:01 PM

#126864

alfaromeo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

So you're saying this wasn't a bid where the majority of people were displaced to lower paying equipment?

Just like every other bid since the contract was approved. Whoda thunk?

03-20-2013, 07:02 PM

#126865

SailorJerry

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Originally Posted by johnso29

So you're saying this wasn't a bid where the majority of people were displaced to lower paying equipment?

Until someone proves me wrong, yes.

03-20-2013, 07:03 PM

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DLpilot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

Well....they are getting the summer off.

Hmmm...wonder how they will react when their training gets delayed. I am also betting quite a few end up on reserve until the category gets established.

03-20-2013, 07:05 PM

#126867

80ktsClamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

So you're saying this wasn't a bid where the majority of people were displaced to lower paying equipment?

Yep.... like I said earlier, they really mitigated the cascade on this and left lower paying positions unfilled that they didn't have to.

That took A LOT of the mess out of this that there could have been.

Like I said, first time in 5 years that I've actually had positive movement in an ATL category (very small, but it's something- that's what she said).

03-20-2013, 07:09 PM

#126868

iaflyer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

(small, but it's something- that's what she said).

More 717 humor:

"It's small, but it gets the job done."

"It may take 5 legs, but we'll get 'er to the layover"

"It's small, but it's like the Energizer Bunny - it goes all day"

03-20-2013, 07:11 PM

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hockeypilot44

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I have to say I am pleasantly surprised by this bid. I expected the new lower paying F/O positions in ATL to drag everyone backwards. I thought I might get displaced to it against my will. I was way wrong.

03-20-2013, 07:14 PM

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NERD

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That is your choice as capt. Luckily I have not had any problem as most commuters understand and are accommodating. As a 17 year commuter with 23 to go I will do whatever it takes to get everyone I can on. In the past I have sat many times on the door 3 757 FA jump ANC-MSP at the end of a 12 day trip after working HKG-KIX-ANC or TPE-NRT-ANC. I'm on the 88 so the legs are not too long, and truthfully the FA jumpseat is better. At least you can stand. I also will sit in a cockpit jumpseat (as long as there are no other online, offline pilots trying for it) on a DH or PS to training if it helps get another non rev junior to me on.

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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream

I too make a great effort to get on jump seaters... but there is no way I would pre-decide/pressure a Delta pilot to sit on that piece of plywood called a FA jump seat (and I would hope that the majority of Delta Captains are not doing so). At 55yo, I've done it to get on the jumpseater, for 2hrs or so, but that's my personal limit.