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03-19-2013, 10:44 AM
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03-19-2013, 10:46 AM
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03-19-2013, 10:47 AM
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03-19-2013, 10:48 AM
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03-19-2013, 10:55 AM
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Icrew back up, AE still closed.
03-19-2013, 11:01 AM
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That maybe true, but that doesn't make it right. First of all I have an issue with any FO, myself included, being an instructor. Just another way the company is taking away money and Capt seats. I get it is cheaper for an AQ FO than a LCA, but that is still, IMHO, a Capt seat that someone should be able to upgrade into, in SENIORITY ORDER. You mean to tell me in all the categories we don't have enough qualified pilots to be instructors, that we have to go outside of the seniority system to get a good instructor? Or is it that it would put an end to the Good ol Boy system?
I believe it should go one step further, Every Instructor should come from our active Seniority List. That has nothing to do with the quality of what we have, cause its good, it has everything to do with us continually giving jobs back and being stagnant.
I believe it should go one step further, Every Instructor should come from our active Seniority List. That has nothing to do with the quality of what we have, cause its good, it has everything to do with us continually giving jobs back and being stagnant.
03-19-2013, 11:03 AM
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That is true, I think there are a great deal of decent guys that would be instructors in each category.
I find it is total BS that this guy is holding this seat OUT of seniority. I checked the Seniority list and he is shown as INS744B...nearly every pilot around him is holding the ER or smaller. A clear abrogation of our seniority system. If I was senior to him and had a bid in for that seat as a PMN guy I would seriously consider filing a grievance.
I find it is total BS that this guy is holding this seat OUT of seniority. I checked the Seniority list and he is shown as INS744B...nearly every pilot around him is holding the ER or smaller. A clear abrogation of our seniority system. If I was senior to him and had a bid in for that seat as a PMN guy I would seriously consider filing a grievance.
03-19-2013, 11:07 AM
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Usually it is difficult to get a Capt on the 777 to be willing to instruct since the pay for instructors tops out at ER pay, I think. Until a year ago or so, the senior 777 A instructor could only hold 777B about mid-seniority. It has always been that way for the WB instructors. Maybe the N system worked differently and would be a better option.
Only captains performed checkrides, sim instructors also did OE.
03-19-2013, 11:10 AM
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How does the inst that cannot hold the position remain current, and when they fly are they payed at the lower rate that they can hold or at the rate the aircraft is paid at?
03-19-2013, 11:15 AM
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Holding pay is like 8 dollars an hour. They only get it on delays over 1 hour. They had their pension frozen and then for several years got no pension contribution at all. Our pension was converted and we were getting DC money from the day the pension was frozen.
In the end relative to what the industry pays we are better compensated then the flight attendants by a nice margin.
In the end relative to what the industry pays we are better compensated then the flight attendants by a nice margin.
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