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Old 03-18-2013, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
They are an instructor on it.... how the crap do you get to do that if you can't hold the airplane?
No idea. Wow.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:01 PM
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The instructors are hired by Fleet Captains. They have to be right people regardless of seniority. By invitation.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
The instructors are hired by Fleet Captains. They have to be right people regardless of seniority. By invitation.
Hmm.... I thought you had to hold the fleet to be hired to be an INS.

I guess not.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Opus
Predictions on A.E:
Sleeper: NYC 320A: Goes down to 8000 on seniority.
Shocker: Atl B717A: Junior CA 6800 or so.
Inexplicable:The amount WB FOs that bid narrow body captain. (It will probably be mainly north guys doing this as we had a tendency to hire more public school kids than on the south side.)
The Unbelievable: With all the shake up and WB FOs bidding narrow body CA the 747 goes insufficient bidders from the north guys on the B side, allowing the first South FO on the airplane. (Can you say rest break controversy!)
Guaranteed: *****ing about the results.
My Predictions:

I'm thinking the sleeper category will be DTW 738 CA. I think people will be amazed how junior that goes.

I agree the 717 will go more senior than originally thought (again, for both A and B).

I don't see many international WB First Officers bidding NB Captain. (and by "many" I'm talking the ones senior enough to hold pure international lines).

The 747 has a certain aura about it and if you're a F-NWA DTW based DC-9 FO, why not throw your name in the hat for that? You're getting displaced anyway, there's no freeze, and you have bragging rights to a 747 type rating!

Definitely agree there will be *****ing... and plenty of it!
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'd say the 747 will stay NORTH of the 9500 mark.

Hey-o!
I bet 744B goes more senior than the current ~8500. Most of the displacing DC9A's are bidding 744B. I expect MD's off 744B even though they are posting vacancies.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
If the company was serious about reducing "latency," agreeing to Door Pay would be the best possible way for them to accomplish it.
They are serious about reducing costs. Give door pay to the pilots and your going to have to give it to the flight attendants. Big cost increase. You also now have to develope a new pay and scheduling system that tracks two different metics and integrates both into DBMS. that will require lots of programming and certainly some aircraft hardware changes.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They are serious about reducing costs. Give door pay to the pilots and your going to have to give it to the flight attendants. Big cost increase. You also now have to develope a new pay and scheduling system that tracks two different metics and integrates both into DBMS. that will require lots of programming and certainly some aircraft hardware changes.
All fleets that cannot track door opening/closure are already being fitted to do so with the new ACARS 601.

All north aircraft already track MCD and cargo.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
There are two of them below 11000.... one is an instructor on it.... how the crap do you get to do that if you can't hold the airplane?
You were an INS on it prior to the merger got hired as a pilot and was hired as a PCP to the 744 program.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They are serious about reducing costs. Give door pay to the pilots and your going to have to give it to the flight attendants. Big cost increase. You also now have to develope a new pay and scheduling system that tracks two different metics and integrates both into DBMS. that will require lots of programming and certainly some aircraft hardware changes.
1. I said reduce latency. I said nothing about costs.
2. Flight Attendants have zero affect on latency.
3. The new ACARS should make door pay a relatively simple programming change.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
1. I said reduce latency. I said nothing about costs.
2. Flight Attendants have zero affect on latency.
3. The new ACARS should make door pay a relatively simple programming change.
You have to completely reprogram DBMS to track both times and provide legalities both FAR and Contractual. You also now can't import marketing data for building rotations times. You need a new system for rotation construction both for initial and irregular ops. The DBMS change alone would be huge. It may seem easy but it would be a major long term programming change.
Latency is about reducing costs for the company.
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