Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-18-2013, 10:41 AM
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Yeah, I flew with an FO last month who was in the top 20 in category. I asked if he was going to bid A since he could even hold it on the ER. He said nope, because he was crediting over 140 hours per month. He bids with LCA's as the senior FO, then picks up trips off the swap board when he drops due to TOE. I still scratch my head over that one.
In years gone by, some of the top paid pilots at DL were super senior F/O's doing that. I knew one guy who was a 25yr. 777 F/O, making more than half the captains on it! He always buddy bid with the LCA's, dropped his entire line for IOE's, then only flew G/S.
03-18-2013, 10:42 AM
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03-18-2013, 10:43 AM
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03-18-2013, 10:44 AM
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All of the gadgets won't help with ATL-BHM-ATL-BNA-ATL-CHS-ATL-SAV-ATL-MLB-ATL-PNS-ATL-CHA-ATL-AVL-ATL-ORD-ATL-HSV-ATL.
There's gonna be some rude awakenings.
And even the occasional "give it back! Let Pinnacle have it back" followed by thumb sucking after the 4th reroute into less rest on your 5 day trip.
There's gonna be some rude awakenings.
And even the occasional "give it back! Let Pinnacle have it back" followed by thumb sucking after the 4th reroute into less rest on your 5 day trip.
Bite your tongue! God after all the talk about getting our flying back I hope no one ever lets this cross their mind. I rather us do it in the 717 than an rj, all I hope is we hire soon so the new hires can do it!
03-18-2013, 10:46 AM
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I'm going to say DL 7/16/01!!!
03-18-2013, 10:47 AM
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Talk to some of the scheduling people about the effect that change would have on jobs. It would be huge. The company would certainly love it.
I have commuted almost my entire career. Plenty of GS's go out to commuters. I watch the trip assignments in my category and when the are short lots are covered the day prior. The driver of overtime is how a category is manned. At least with the GS process the company has to increase manning as a result of using that option. Considering the angst on here about job loss I am surprised anyone would advocate reducing overtime pay by 50 percent and losing the manning increases from GS's. the company could really run things skinny with everyone crawling all over each other to break 80.
I have commuted almost my entire career. Plenty of GS's go out to commuters. I watch the trip assignments in my category and when the are short lots are covered the day prior. The driver of overtime is how a category is manned. At least with the GS process the company has to increase manning as a result of using that option. Considering the angst on here about job loss I am surprised anyone would advocate reducing overtime pay by 50 percent and losing the manning increases from GS's. the company could really run things skinny with everyone crawling all over each other to break 80.
Gotta agree with sailingfun and everybody else mentioning this point.
Giving an incentive for people to bid more hours would not bode well for advancement and hiring.
Regarding the spectrum of "junior" type issues: We live within an entirely seniority based system. That does not lend itself well to any "spread the wealth, or pain" type solutions.
03-18-2013, 10:48 AM
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Does anyone else find it ironic that individuals gripe about no hiring, and then in the same post gripe about not being able to fly more for overtime? A rep recently told me pilots were up in arms after the AE was announced because we aren't hiring. Yet we have many pilots who have no problem crediting 90-100 hours per month. We truly are our own worst enemy.
Agree 100% johnso.
03-18-2013, 10:52 AM
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03-18-2013, 11:06 AM
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If you say "give it back! Let Pinnacle have it back" you ought to be
BTW... 80ktsclamp?
03-18-2013, 11:17 AM
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I bet a 9100# or 05/2000 hire as the most senior 717B.
I bet #3800 or 1990/1987 hire as the most senior 717A.
Most junior 717A........ hmmmm.... north of 7900 so a 1997/1998 hire?
I'll bet a 717+ on each of those, a 717+++ if I parlay.
I bet #3800 or 1990/1987 hire as the most senior 717A.
Most junior 717A........ hmmmm.... north of 7900 so a 1997/1998 hire?
I'll bet a 717+ on each of those, a 717+++ if I parlay.
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