Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-18-2013, 01:27 AM
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SDs weekly update I think mentioned 3 days or so. I'm going with 1600/22nd.
03-18-2013, 01:30 AM
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Jughead,
You are right. Something that would help over 90% of pilot's with the higher ALVs of the future vs something that helps for the most part locals senior in catergory. What was I thinking?
You are right. Something that would help over 90% of pilot's with the higher ALVs of the future vs something that helps for the most part locals senior in catergory. What was I thinking?
03-18-2013, 03:06 AM
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I don't begrudge the system, because someday I assume I'll be senior, and expect the same realities will exist as they do today. This is a seniority-based industry, not a fair-based industry.
Sorry, but everybody's a winner - everyone gets a trophy - it's time for the rich to pay their fair share, gets old.
03-18-2013, 04:20 AM
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Nice political commentary at the end. Never did I say anything about taking from the rich, everyone being a winner or getting trophies. Your large forehead is making this harder than it should be to understand. Seniority is still in play. As a matter of fact, all of the locals whoring themselves out on WS would benefit by 1 1/2 as GS only come into play when scheduling is desperate. 2 time still could be a factor with short callouts or reroutes into days off.
I'm local, but rarely see a GS because I'm very junior. I happen to live in base because I was born here, have kids in school here, and it generally makes my life a bit easier. That's the way it is.
I don't begrudge the system, because someday I assume I'll be senior, and expect the same realities will exist as they do today. This is a seniority-based industry, not a fair-based industry.
Sorry, but everybody's a winner - everyone gets a trophy - it's time for the rich to pay their fair share, gets old.
I don't begrudge the system, because someday I assume I'll be senior, and expect the same realities will exist as they do today. This is a seniority-based industry, not a fair-based industry.
Sorry, but everybody's a winner - everyone gets a trophy - it's time for the rich to pay their fair share, gets old.
03-18-2013, 04:36 AM
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We need to do away the GS system. It only benefits locals. I'm guessing over 50% of us commute. By not having 1.5 over say ALV for example, it's cost me over a $1500 this month. I don't pick up or trade, just fly what pbs gives me. With ALVs going up with the new contract we should work on this, possibly in any negotiation involving the Virgen code share. There can stil be double time for inverse assignments or reroutes into days off. I'm sure the other half that don't commute won't like this though.
03-18-2013, 04:37 AM
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This is a web board with varying opinions and beliefs. I don't expect you to agree with everything I say, just as I totally and completely disagree with your opinion. So don't take it personally.
Good day to you, sir.
03-18-2013, 04:41 AM
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I've got a simple solution, keep GS system and add 1.5x pay for flying beyond 85? Or is it 80? Screw it make it ALV.
03-18-2013, 04:41 AM
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I'm local, but rarely see a GS because I'm very junior. I happen to live in base because I was born here, have kids in school here, and it generally makes my life a bit easier. That's the way it is.
I don't begrudge the system, because someday I assume I'll be senior, and expect the same realities will exist as they do today. This is a seniority-based industry, not a fair-based industry.
Sorry, but everybody's a winner - everyone gets a trophy - it's time for the rich to pay their fair share, gets old.
I don't begrudge the system, because someday I assume I'll be senior, and expect the same realities will exist as they do today. This is a seniority-based industry, not a fair-based industry.
Sorry, but everybody's a winner - everyone gets a trophy - it's time for the rich to pay their fair share, gets old.
Sorry, but everybody will not be senior someday. Mergers and 9/11s tend to change that dynamic. Plus, as long as we have vacation swap and swap board, seniority is and will continue to be abrogated.
There is a new dynamic at Delta continuing to emerge, it's called time value of money. The concept is that there is no DB anymore, so the tried and true "you'll be senior someday" doesn't necessarily apply. To the contrary, a DC plan rewards people for money earned NOW, not in the future.
The realities you are expecting are going the way of the dodo, the DB, 70 hour months. SWA, JB, Spirit, America West, and we have ensured that times have become a model of efficiency.
03-18-2013, 04:43 AM
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I think they have AE out at 1405 today.
Wait how are we doing this pool?
Wait how are we doing this pool?
03-18-2013, 05:14 AM
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Well, I wish you luck. The sad truth is, Sh!t rolls downhill... There are 15 767 Capt.s senior to me on the ATL 767 Domestic. Each and every one of them could (and may) MD to the 777A in ATL. That will push me down 15 places, while pushing 15 off the bottom. Those bottom 15 will cascade down into other categorys, and push more out the bottom, all the way down to the 717.
That category may be entirely filled by MD's. At least they won't be seat locked for 24 mo.
That category may be entirely filled by MD's. At least they won't be seat locked for 24 mo.
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