Jughead

Yeah - right on. There's a bunch of stuff I don't like either. We should get rid of that stuff too. Not fair.

Doug Masters

Like weekend flying...not fair for us jr folk. (TIC Nerd)

TeddyKGB

It's way cheaper than a confirmed coach seat and she will fly 1st class both legs on an international route. Not a bad deal for under $500.

80ktsClamp

44 pilots senior to low 104XX have 717B in... 23 as their first preference.

757 senior to me for 717A... yeah, Lumberg's guess on my seniority getting 717A if we signed this contract probably isn't going to happen this time.

Timbo

The Buddy Pass is really only a deal for International, if/when they can get into first class, or on some thin domestic routes where they can actually get on a flight! I have a Buddy who flys over to ATL from Zurich every January, for a week of sailboat racing in the Keys.

He buys a Buddy Pass for about $450 round trip, ZRH-ATL, and then he buys the cheapest ticket from ATL-PBI, FLL or MIA from ATL, so he will definately get there. ($380 last Jan) It's nearly impossible to ride on a pass from ATL to FL in January, over MLK weekend, which is when we race. I pick him up in MIA/FLL/PBI (which ever is the cheapest for him) on the way down to the Keys, and drop him off there on the way back.

He's been doing it for the past 5 years. Only once, did he not sit in FC both ways from ZRH-ATL. He had to sit in coach going home last year, but they gave him a whole row, so he was able to lie down and sleep most of the way home.

forgot to bid

There will be about 27 ATL DC9As that might be coming over on the mandatory displacement on top of that. I'm sure nobody put an AE if they can get a free MD.

There are 44 ATL DC9As senior to 6900.


The thing we won't know is how many bid 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, etc. That's why I find that AE category stuff less than helpful.

I was looking at stuff recently for ATL Bs. I'll spare the show my math, but if I was in the bottom 40 7ER (given the bottom 63 guys are junior to the ATL767B plug) or bottom 40 73N or 30 A320 or 50 M88, I'd have my MD bid up to date just in case.

I'm betting a 2000 hire is #1 on the 717B. maybe a 1999 hire. The top 20% or so of the 717B are in the low 10,000s or 2001 hires or senior. Then I think a lot after that are guys in the 10,000s until their percentages are met. Then I'm sure the bottom of it goes junior.

That's just an assumption looking at the seniority list.

80ktsClamp

Hey, ftb- did you factor in the 717A positions into all that swagging?

(I've gone back and rechecked all my preferences about 15 times in the last 20 minutes.. nervously making sure i didnt put something in that may bite me!)

forgot to bid

negative. which would help tremendously. it would be most helpful if a lot of 7ER Bs bid 717A. The higher the better. It'd be nice if the sucking sound was from the top and not the bottom.

717++++

forgot to bid

btw, how in the world does the "downtown" 30 hour layover for ALB count as downtown?

80ktsClamp

That's what I thought. The major wild card is the absolute landslide of people that don't need to fill out any AEs on this bid since their category is being nuked.

I've settled on bidding what I want, and wanting what I bid. Trying to move up, if not, protect not backsliding in category, and if then, getting the best possible outcome.

Lot's and lots of %'s on my bid...