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Old 03-17-2013, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by daldude
Asked Chief pilot asked why delay on 717 entry into service. Did not mention sim moving. But did say that now they could delay converting as many pilots to 717 over summer.

Pretty logical on company's part, now they can continue to delay hiring. I'm not saying the sky is falling and I'm sure someone can put some positive spin on why they are not going to start 717 service. But before you bid for the summer off I think it is pretty clear that it not going to happen. I can see the next CR letter saying Nov then Dec then by next summer for 717 service.

Also, in the last letter from ops I was led to believe that we are still over staffed in the 330 and will be further overstaffed when they start the lie flat conversions and start removing the 330's from service. There is your next source of funding for the 717. Hmmm
I think the surprising part of the crew resources newsletter promoting the summer off if you bid the 717 is that it contradicts the long proven philosophy of bid what you want and want what you bid.

So it was hinted that you'd get a summer off and thus guys bid the 717 in the hopes of a summer off, only one problem, doesn't look like that's happening at all. Nice. oh well for them, just be glad it's a 2 year seat lock and we haven't gone to 5 yet.

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Old 03-17-2013, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AeroCrewSolut
Delta has delayed the delivery of the initial 3 717's. They will now be taking delivery of 6 starting in October. The bigger issue for Delta is that Boeing has decided to move their entire Seattle sim center to Miami. It will take Boeing 60 days to move the 717 sim from SEA to MIA. The training department is freaking out because of the loss of available sim time. Delta was able to move the DC-9 sim and get certification in 21 days and they are upset that Boeing is taking this long. The other 717 sims available worldwide are located in Stockholm or Brisbane. Sign me up for that assignment. I guess the Hawaiian pilots now have to go to Brisbane for recurrent training.
You talked me into it...I'll AE 717A in both bases. Let's see how far I miss it by.

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Old 03-17-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I think the surprising part of the crew resources newsletter promoting the summer off if you bid the 717 is that it contradicts the long proven philosophy of bid what you want and want what you bid.

So it was hinted that you'd get a summer off and thus guys bid the 717 in the hopes of a summer off, only one problem, doesn't look like that's happening at all. Nice. oh well for them, just be glad it's a 2 year seat lock and we haven't gone to 5 yet.
They already posted the SIM schedule so I guess a lucky few will start in late April but it will be like 4 or 5 crews getting the summer off. The rest will be in training over the summer months and of course into next winter.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Question for anyone who knows... I noticed that regular lines on NYC765 are going to very junior pilots for the last few months. I'm guessing that this is a winter anomaly, and that those junior line-holders are reserve guys most of the year. I can't see any of the bid awards prior to January. Does anyone have any experience in that seat? I know, I should stay away, NYC sucks, right?
Don't plan on commutable trips and have fun flying the left over scraps.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:51 AM
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The 765 scraps beat the heck out of the scraps I get in my current category.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
The 765 scraps beat the heck out of the scraps I get in my current category.
I think its in our contract that the 765 has no bad trips.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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717A 114 total and 64/10/7 senior to low 6300.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
The 765 scraps beat the heck out of the scraps I get in my current category.
Got ya. I thought you were a 7ER guy looking to go to NYC7ER. I can't speak for the 765. I have never viewed their rotations.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
717A 114 total and 64/10/7 senior to low 6300.
Keep in mind that does not include MD bids.
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Originally Posted by NERD
717A 114 total and 64/10/7 senior to low 6300.
OUCH 293 total, 140 first senior to 6900's
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