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Old 03-15-2013, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I can't blame management for co-selling the TA.
Selling it is one thing, and I can understand and live with that.

Misrepresenting their intentions in an effort to deceive and manipulate us is another thing entirely. Especially when they preach and demand "integrity" from us.

It sure would be great to have someone on our side to help us cut through the company's bull. Wait, isn't that why we're paying ALPA??
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:46 PM
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Well there have certainly been more entertaining days here. You guys must be bored.
We need that AD bid out so we can stop the sd said this he scammed us / im optimistic / mgt phrasing can be variably interpreted depending onmy stance fest.
Yes johnso is strangely hard to figure out. We know this
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I'm not disagreeing with that. But at what point do we stop blaming management, & start blaming ourselves? Even if it's only partial blame.
At what point does DALPA figure into this equation johnso? You know, the DALPA that you so vigorously defended all through the run up to the TA vote? When you say "blaming ourselves", what do you mean by ourselves? As someone who repeatedly reminded us that WE are DALPA, what was their (our) role? Why were the road shows replete with SD's comments about hiring IF we voted in the TA? Is there any appreciable difference between our union leadership and management?

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:03 PM
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia


Ha ha....

"The new phone books are here...The new phone books are here!"





Note: nothing personal intended there columbia, I just had visions of that when I read the post. Especially the "breaking" aspect.
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Too bad our MEC didn't put that disclaimer at the bottom of every piece of propaganda we were fed during the TA discussion. WARNING: Anything we regurgitate to you here is almost word for word what we were told by management to get you to vote YES, but you should realize they'll lie to you if given the chance and you're an idiot if you don't realize that.
This is the heart of the problem because it presupposes that there's a difference between the MEC and management. The evidence shows me that there's almost no difference. Management's sales job was nowhere near as passionate as the MEC's sales job. If Delta pilots are good with that, then we'll see a continuation of this experiment in the new unionism. I just want to be sure that we all know where we stand.

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I can't blame management for co-selling the TA.
Co-selling eh? Well played sir.

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:42 PM
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Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth over what some guy said or promised


There I added something for you
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth
My thoughts exactly!
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