No, I was not. Someone questioned clarification of a statement. I provided said clarification by pasting the statement.

No where in my post did I state or imply that the more frequent AEs were guaranteed.

03-15-2013, 10:38 AM

#126032

biigD

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I liked this thread better when you guys were creaming yourselves over whatever was posted on the DALPA board.

03-15-2013, 10:41 AM

#126033

DeadHead

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

Not really. FTB just showed the infamous SD statement again. He used the word "could". When does the word "could" ever guarantee anything?

Also, what is "more frequent" defined as? Were you expecting another AE in 2 months? 4 months?

If the words "could" and "more frequent" are such loose words than why they even used in the first place?

03-15-2013, 10:44 AM

#126034

80ktsClamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluejuice71

The March crew resources update clearly states that "the March 2013 bid should be our final cleanup before entering into the more frequent bid phase." So going forward there hopefully will not be anymore displacements.

Quote:

"Clearly States?" Really?

What were your intentions with the "yes, really?" response to the above? What were you trying to say?

03-15-2013, 10:46 AM

#126035

80ktsClamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

WRT more frequent, I'm certain there isn't a defined normal interval in between AEs.

Why would they say more frequent if the "new" spacing approximates the current normal? (there are typically 3 bids a year- averaging every 4 months)

03-15-2013, 10:47 AM

#126036

forgot to bid

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If Delta can continue to execute its business plan... Ckd
including the 717s... ON
barring an economic downturn.... Ckd & Set
or other unanticipated event.. OFF
we could begin the hiring process as early as the last quarter of this year... ARM

I remember saying, along with others, the timing was suspicious in that it came i believe a week or two after the TA was announced. If hiring was going to happen why wasn't it mentioned on day 1?

But I was chastised, of course we are going to hire.

03-15-2013, 10:48 AM

#126037

APCLurker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biigD

I liked this thread better when you guys were creaming yourselves over whatever was posted on the DALPA board.

Ha ha ha

03-15-2013, 10:49 AM

#126038

flyallnite

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Posts: 1,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAAC ATP

I have been holding off on a tablet purchase for just this reason, and I see Delta's delay in implementing a tablet as a good thing. Those airlines currently using Ipads basically have a really expensive chart/pdf reader. A tablet is very close to a class II EFB and as such should have more capability than simply viewing documents. For example, with sat com and wifi, an EFB can easily replace ACARS and be more effective. In the end, I hope Delta is performing due diligence and perhaps learning about the limitations of the using Ipads. What we would end up with would be a much better tool, but it won't be Apple.

Well, I wouldn't hold off on the tablet purchase if I were you. They are indespensable. The apple is a really nice product (and you can use airwatch) , but if you are looking to save some cash the Google Nexus is very nice for the price. The Ipad Mini is great for it's size and weight.

I've heard that we'll be getting some version of the Microsoft Surface- our relationship with that company being the main driver. I haven't seen one in person but they look nice and I'm sure offer the architecture to perform as needed. I would expect a fleet wide solution sometime around 2015, along with the huge IT upgrade that will take us away from DBMS at long last. The new tablet will integrate with this, and I'd expect most day to day tasks we now do via the internet and phone (requiring an actual human being at the other end) will be moved to the new platform, along with support for our actual flight ops, catering, inflight, MX, ACS... Think real time operations overview from the tablet, with the ability to request anything without making a radio call or an acars entry.

03-15-2013, 10:52 AM

#126039

johnso29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

What were your intentions with the "yes, really?" response to the above? What were you trying to say?

Here is the original conversation:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluejuice71

Quote:

Originally Posted by boog123

"Clearly States?" Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

Yes. Really. Did you read the newsletter? The exact words are this:

The March 2013 bid should be our final clean-up before entering into the more frequent bid phase.

I simply proved that Crew Resources clearly stated that the March 2013 AE should be the last clean up bid. Nowhere in my original post do I state/imply that it will indeed be the final clean up bid. Nowhere.

Why is it ok for people to be snarky in a negative light, but when I'm snarky in a positive light I'm clearly "making fun of my coworkers" or "being arrogant"?

03-15-2013, 10:52 AM

#126040

maddogmax

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FYI, Just found out that when you retire you get blocked from the Delta Pilot Forums. Oh Well. I guess you have to pay dues to stay informed about a company you worked for for 27 years.