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Old 03-14-2013, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149

Happened to me years go. 30 in 7 is actual not planned as they explained it to me. So they will let you do the first 2 trips in your case (hoping you under fly) then adjust the last one. At least that's what NWA would do. In my case they were back to back 3 day when I was a 9 boy in MEM. I remember walking up to a gate fat dumb and happy and finding a reserve crew already on the jet and a message from crew scheds to call

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That's a scheduling fallacy. The actual reg (121.471) states:

(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed—

Note the "schedule" portion. Actual and scheduled are by definition different. They can not have 30:01 on your schedule. Unless its after the start of your last duty period. Then it's covered by the FAA approved fallacy of legal to start legal to finish. Show me where the FARs directly say "legal to start, legal to finish" and I'll buy you a beer.

My assumption is that the Freeport turn is under Flag Ops (121.481) which allows up to 32 in 7.

NWA, as well as a great number of carriers misinterpret the definition of scheduled. If its indeed of concern, I'd seek clarification if this ever happens.

Then again, none of this will matter once the new regs come along...I hope.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
92 with 59 as first choice senior to 6300
Check out the schedules and trips on the -9 for April. That is the reality that will await one after the summer off!
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:52 PM
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Just finished four on-call days without a single phone call...touchdown!!
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:56 PM
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I know this has been covered before but I don't want to wade thru 12500+ pages to find out.

I am coming off a trip on Saturday and have a scheduler assigned 24 hour break from Sat to Sun due to afternoon. After I make my required schedule check at the end of my rotation on Sat am I required to check my schedule during my 24 hour rest period?
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
I know this has been covered before but I don't want to wade thru 12500+ pages to find out.

I am coming off a trip on Saturday and have a scheduler assigned 24 hour break from Sat to Sun due to afternoon. After I make my required schedule check at the end of my rotation on Sat am I required to check my schedule during my 24 hour rest period?
I've been corrected on this issue. Technically, no. How long does it take you to get from home to check-in?
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Burn Notice
Check out the schedules and trips on the -9 for April. That is the reality that will await one after the summer off!
243 senior to with 124 first choice senior to 6900's. I'm thinking that folks are saying, "how much different can it be that the 7ER trips?"
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
243 senior to with 124 first choice senior to 6900's. I'm thinking that folks are saying, "how much different can it be that the 7ER trips?"
No, they know they are getting the summer off.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:51 PM
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And then it is a loooong 19-20 months!
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
I know this has been covered before but I don't want to wade thru 12500+ pages to find out.

I am coming off a trip on Saturday and have a scheduler assigned 24 hour break from Sat to Sun due to afternoon. After I make my required schedule check at the end of my rotation on Sat am I required to check my schedule during my 24 hour rest period?
By the contract, yes.

ALPA is the ones to call for the true answer, but I think you're supposed to check your schedule 9 hours before the end of your rest period. If you don't, you might have to report as early as 3 hours after your rest period ends.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Burn Notice
And then it is a loooong 19-20 months!

Question - Does a new category and/or a First Time Captain bid incur the standard 2 year seat lock? I thought I remember reading that you can bid out of a 24 month FO seat lock if you are bidding into a CAPT seat or into a newly established category, but those brain cells have long since been killed, and I might have it backwards.

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