Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-14-2013, 03:43 AM
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Attila is coming back in a new and expanded form. Its not going away. I can't personally state if it works or not. I do know that they ran hundreds of tests where they would use it one day and then not use it another day with the exact same weather conditions. They seemed to like it. It somewhat amazes me that some pilots seemed to find it a enormous burden to take 20 seconds and plug it into the FMS.
03-14-2013, 04:52 AM
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ATC is going to tell you to do what they need you to do, they are ATC and ATTILA all in one.
03-14-2013, 05:14 AM
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I sure never heard anything about 400 narrow bodies. Delta stated they needed 100 large narrow bodies and 100 small narrow bodies. Now looks like we will end up with 130 large narrow bodies and 88 small narrow bodies. Both Boeing and Airbus are struggling to sell their current airframes and are offering deep discounts. The rumors that the 30 aircraft will be the Airbus NEO are also incorrect. Delta is looking at the current A321 with sharklets not the NEO. The NEO is still a long way from production and like every new aircraft is facing some engineering troubles.
I do get amused by the constant forum babble about buying airlines to get their aircraft and slots and Delta getting shut out of aircraft types because they are sold out. As RA stated at one meeting he can get any aircraft he wants in 6 months. Delta is the 2nd largest airline in the world. Both Boeing and Airbus set up their deliveries and contracts so they can cater to large customers. If we want NEO's or Maxes we will get them when we want them. I suspect that is why the purchases have been structured the way we set them up. We get airframes now and then can fill out the order books later with the next generation.
I do get amused by the constant forum babble about buying airlines to get their aircraft and slots and Delta getting shut out of aircraft types because they are sold out. As RA stated at one meeting he can get any aircraft he wants in 6 months. Delta is the 2nd largest airline in the world. Both Boeing and Airbus set up their deliveries and contracts so they can cater to large customers. If we want NEO's or Maxes we will get them when we want them. I suspect that is why the purchases have been structured the way we set them up. We get airframes now and then can fill out the order books later with the next generation.
You seem somewhat clear minded on this topic. Would you be willing to lay down what you think is the "plan" going forward: Aircraft deliveries, rfp types and quantities. If there is good news, just take some time and tell us what you think that news might be...Please.
03-14-2013, 05:18 AM
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Attila is coming back in a new and expanded form. Its not going away. I can't personally state if it works or not. I do know that they ran hundreds of tests where they would use it one day and then not use it another day with the exact same weather conditions. They seemed to like it. It somewhat amazes me that some pilots seemed to find it a enormous burden to take 20 seconds and plug it into the FMS.
Because no matter what, Atilla doesn't measure compliance so how do they know it works?
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03-14-2013, 05:26 AM
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I sure never heard anything about 400 narrow bodies. Delta stated they needed 100 large narrow bodies and 100 small narrow bodies. Now looks like we will end up with 130 large narrow bodies and 88 small narrow bodies. Both Boeing and Airbus are struggling to sell their current airframes and are offering deep discounts. The rumors that the 30 aircraft will be the Airbus NEO are also incorrect. Delta is looking at the current A321 with sharklets not the NEO. The NEO is still a long way from production and like every new aircraft is facing some engineering troubles.
Delta Air Lines Inc. plans to order 100 to 200 narrow-body jets and seek options for 200 more, a deal that may become the biggest in commercial aviation history, as it replaces some of its oldest planes.
A request for proposals went to “several” planemakers last month, and deliveries may begin as soon as 2013, Atlanta- based Delta told employees today on an internal website without identifying the companies. Airbus SAS and Boeing Co. are the biggest commercial-jet makers.
Delta Plans to Order 200 Narrow-Body Jets, Options for 200 More - Bloomberg
A request for proposals went to “several” planemakers last month, and deliveries may begin as soon as 2013, Atlanta- based Delta told employees today on an internal website without identifying the companies. Airbus SAS and Boeing Co. are the biggest commercial-jet makers.
Delta Plans to Order 200 Narrow-Body Jets, Options for 200 More - Bloomberg
I do get amused by the constant forum babble about buying airlines to get their aircraft and slots and Delta getting shut out of aircraft types because they are sold out. As RA stated at one meeting he can get any aircraft he wants in 6 months. Delta is the 2nd largest airline in the world. Both Boeing and Airbus set up their deliveries and contracts so they can cater to large customers. If we want NEO's or Maxes we will get them when we want them. I suspect that is why the purchases have been structured the way we set them up. We get airframes now and then can fill out the order books later with the next generation.
03-14-2013, 05:27 AM
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03-14-2013, 05:38 AM
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03-14-2013, 05:39 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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Anyway - I wonder if the reduction in airspace-clogging RJs and Airtran reductions in ATL is making Attila not worth it. I mean, if we're trying to increase the number of slots in ATL, any economist or airline consultant (unless you work for an RJ manufacturer) would say to reduce the number of planes by putting adding more seats to the same slot. That would increase "productivity" of a landing "slot" in ATL.
Amazing - you could run more people through ATL with less planes and less delays. Save money.
I doubt we'd be getting rid of Attilla if it was saving us money.
03-14-2013, 05:55 AM
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Sailing;
You seem somewhat clear minded on this topic. Would you be willing to lay down what you think is the "plan" going forward: Aircraft deliveries, rfp types and quantities. If there is good news, just take some time and tell us what you think that news might be...Please.
You seem somewhat clear minded on this topic. Would you be willing to lay down what you think is the "plan" going forward: Aircraft deliveries, rfp types and quantities. If there is good news, just take some time and tell us what you think that news might be...Please.
The good news is that since 2001 the mainline has been shrinking in block hours every year. Block hours are the key to our jobs. For the first time in many years the block hours this summer will be stable to up slightly. Starting sometime between Sep and Nov depending on which ops bulletin you read the block hours start increasing every month. That increase with the current orders and fleet plan will continue for 3 years. Combine that with the coming retirements and Delta is going to need a bunch of pilots.
03-14-2013, 05:59 AM
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Block hours are the key to our jobs. For the first time in many years the block hours this summer will be stable to up slightly. Starting sometime between Sep and Nov depending on which ops bulletin you read the block hours start increasing every month. That increase with the current orders and fleet plan will continue for 3 years. Combine that with the coming retirements and Delta is going to need a bunch of pilots.
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