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Old 03-11-2013, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Read the Dec crew planning letter about this bid.

e current unknown factor is the DC9. We did not expect the DC9 to remain in service into 2013, and as a result, the DC9 training department has been greatly reduced. With this reduction, we can now train only two DC9 crews a month. If a large number of DC9 pilots bid off the equipment on the October and early 2013 AE bids, we will be challenged to backfill those pilots in order to meet the summer DC9 flying demand. If DC9 pilots remain on the equipment, the situation is not as critical. Unfortunately, we are not very good at predicting pilot bidding behavior. The October 2012 bid has DC9 openings so we can create a buffer in the event a large number of DC9 pilots do bid off. The early 2013 bid may have DC9 openings as well depending on the number of DC9 pilots bidding off on the October bid.
Fair enough... however, that was written before the Oct 2012 AE award was posted on Nov 9th. They didn't even know how the previous AE had turned out yet so were very much tip toeing around. After the results were known, that wiped any possibility of that out of the way and your statements otherwise were very much wrong.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:56 AM
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Saying that Delta will hire 8000 pilots, in ten years, does not make sense. Please tell me someone asked him how that would be accomplished. Hire and train 800 pilots a year when they say there not going to hire this year. That means they have to hire and train 888 pilots a year starting in 2014. With this quick math, I am sure that someone asked if we are able to do train that many new hires.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:56 AM
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I think CNNSI.com is a porn site.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
I was always under the impression that cargo weight restrictions were much more likely when bound for the US from Asia rather than the opposite.
I did depart GRU one night at MTOW with over 60 empty seats in coach and no non revs, over 40k on cargo. We wondered if we were carrying gold bars.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
So the bid that gets things going in the right direction will be the next bid, right?
See this is amusing:


This is never musing:
The next bid will be better...
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
I did depart GRU one night at MTOW with over 60 empty seats in coach and no non revs, over 40k on cargo. We wondered if we were carrying gold bars.
Sometimes they'll put it on the WDR if you're carrying high value items like that. We had some of them one day coming back from MEX... In that case, the money value of 2500 lbs of gold bars is staggering. I can only imagine how much value ya'll were possibly carrying.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Sometimes they'll put it on the WDR if you're carrying high value items like that. We had some of them one day coming back from MEX... In that case, the money value of 2500 lbs of gold bars is staggering. I can only imagine how much value ya'll were possibly carrying.
40,000 lbs in gold would be $921,062,280 according to Your weight in gold

That's enough according to this website http://demonocracy.info/infographics...s_deficit.html to run the U.S. Government in 2011 for 2 hours. And that was in 2011.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71
With regards to shrinking any farther I can tell you from In Command a couple of weeks ago, Ed Bastian stated that Delta is planning on hiring 8,000 pilots in the next 10 years.
And yet little to no hiring for at least another year, maybe more. That really amps up the hiring when it does start...or makes that 8000/10 figure look that much less likely.

Yeah I know its possible, but if they were really planning on that many, the gates would be opening up soon. We'll see I guess.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by daldude
Regrettably the March bid also clearly states they do not plan to hire to fill vacancies.

So I guess this supports seamonsters theory of a merger to fill vacancies. So many pieces to the puzzle. But I will say that I don't think the 2000 or 2001 hire groups could survive another merger. That would not be good.
Anyone post late 90's would be absolutely slaughtered in a merger with a carrier that's done a fair percentage of hiring the last (lost) decade. Absolutely slaughtered. Unless the deal is structured properly on the front end. That will be the true test of how "constructive" the engagement really is. If they have our back like GK at SW, or if they throw their hands up and say "let them eat relative integration".
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
A lot of times, there is more cargo in weight than the plane can take. Once all the revenue passengers are on, they load the cargo up to the max aircraft weight for the flight. It happens more than you realize on long haul flights. There is zero chance of getting on as a non-rev when this happens.
If that's what happened, fine. Fair is fair and revenue takes priority. I just want to make sure we don't tolerate, much less foster, a culture of relentless D-0 myopia that predjudices treating employees as liabilities because, in addition to not being the right thing to do, that mentality taints the entire web of customer service eventually and often times irreparably. Everyone should always do everything possible to get every last non rev on, every single time. Even if D-0 is at risk for a minute or two (as long as its not the "fault" of the non rev, i.e. showing up at D-0 or D+1, etc).
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