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Old 03-10-2013, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
bingo- what are upgrade and hiring projections with 9,000 pilots?
Explain how Delta will shrink to 9000 pilots.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:20 PM
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:21 PM
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
hmmm... guess who has 12 747-400's, which is very close to 11
And that has what exactly to do with us?

Some of you guys will latch onto anything.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MD88Driver
2023 is a DECADE away, Johnso
Johnso and I will be 44. Lets hope for good times.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Singapore had complained more about having 50% of Virgin's losses more than the acquisition cost.
While that is interesting in and of itself, it probably has no correlation to our relationship with VA. Geography was more than likely the problem with their partnership whereas with us, not only will it not be a problem it will be an asset. In hindsight, VA and Singapore made zero sense.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Johnso and I will be 44. Lets hope for good times.
Indeed. Let's hope.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Here's the proof...



The bold red letter sentence is your response to my post of how many retirements are scheduled from 2017 through 2023. So any predictions(those numbers aren't predictions BTW) beyond 5 years are entirely irrelevant. But numbers over the next 5 years are what? Reliable? Unreliable? Irrelevant?

WRT the Age 65 challenge, you stated "Far too much can change. Age 6_ anyone?" So if you accept that the possibility exists that it can change, then you must accept the possibility that DAL won't continue to shrink and people will advance as those 578 retire.

BTW, daldude has been exchanging cordial discussion. As opposed to implying or flat out stating that I have reading comprehension issues.
There is the crux of the problem johnso. I am not saying, or even implying anything about the next 5 years numbers at all. Nor am I saying that the retirement numbers due to 65 are predictions '17-23.

THe statement about predictions on anything 5 years in the future was not talking about the actual number of age 65 retirements. It is talking about the advancements, or the potential thereof, created by said retirements. That is what myself and others were talking about. It is entirely too early (again, my opinion) to say those retirements equals automatic mass advancement. You seem to think it will. I say Too much can change. You are reading far too much into that "irrelevant" statement and making assumptions of what you think I meant, then making statements for me.

The connection you are making: that my statement about numbers 5 years out being irrelevant is implying in any way, shape, or form that I think the numbers over the next 5 years are correct or all we're getting ...is 100% incorrect. You are flat out saying that I believe that 578 retirements is all we are getting over the next 5 years because I think the 5+ numbers are bumpkiss. I have not said, implied or deduced that whatsoever. You are. As far as I know, we could get 2000 retirements between now and '17. But that is not my opinion. The fact is, only 578 are actually turning 65.

So if you accept that the possibility exists that it can change, then you must accept the possibility that DAL won't continue to shrink and people will advance as those 578 retire.
Well of course they might not shrink. Of course people may advance. I have not said anything is 100% out of the realm of possibility. I am stating the opinion that it is too early to say they will, because results in the future cannot be predicted in this volitile industry, especially results based on what is said now. Again, I have presented nothing as fact.

That still doesn't defend your implication that I said age 65's changing was a fact, and demanding proof of such.

BTW, daldude has been exchanging cordial discussion. As opposed to implying or flat out stating that I have reading comprehension issues
Now now. Lets look in the mirror and not forget who started this roller coaster with the "weak argument" statement regarding an opinion, and false accusation that I was stating age 65 changing was a fact, asking for proof. I'll concede on the RIF comment.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Johnso and I will be 44. Lets hope for good times.

I would trade places with either of you in a nanosecond.
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
Now now. Lets look in the mirror and not forget who started this roller coaster with the "weak argument" statement regarding an opinion, and false accusation that I was stating age 65 changing was a fact, asking for proof. I'll concede on the RIF comment.

Thanks for cutting out the last paragraph of my post. Goodnight.


Originally Posted by johnso29
Maybe we have the same point, and we are just screaming past each other. My initial point was that the numbers are there. You don't have to agree that it will cause a rocketship ride. I wasn't expecting you to. Just that they're there. sailingfun is the one who called it a rocketship.

Even I live by the belief that anything can happen. Sorry for the mudslinging.
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