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Old 03-09-2013, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
Valid points. However, being the number one US carrier to Asia with two hubs fed by another airline flying 737s and adding more CRJ-900s that compete directly with Delta mainline jobs does not help the situation either. In my strong opinion, this and the ALV bump to reserve killed any chance of hiring. Add in the over staffing before this TA and its truly the kindness of someone on the 4th floor 500 to 700 guys haven't been shown the door while every other major is preparing to or already hiring.
Us Air is hiring to staff for their attrition. The merger with AA will likely put a stop to that for a while. UAL is only hiring because they haven't integrated their pilot groups yet. UAL still has 1400+ pilots on furlough. Some of them have elected to work at the bottom of the CAL list, as opposed to being on the street. However, over 600 UAL furloughs are still out. They'll quickly gobble up those vacancies on the CAL side.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Whats a 2000 hire seniority? I'd spitball around 8200 as well.

January 2000 hire:

DAL 8600
NWA 10100
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Fessional
January 2000 hire:

DAL 8600
NWA 10100
I'll go a beer on it making it to a 2000 hire.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Any guesses on how many MD's, if any, will come off the bottom of NYC 7ERB now that the bid has been posted? Hoping to avoid training.
I'm guessing 15-20 at the most.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
8200 is late 97 DAL, 99 NWA.

Got that backwards. 8200 is DAL September 1999, NWA August 1997.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'll go a beer on it making it to a 2000 hire.
I'm guessing you mean fDal 2000 hire. No big deal, but mildly irritating to this 99 hire.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:27 PM
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Well, what's the most junior dc9A in ATL?
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Sailing,

APC is the conversational equivalent of a corporate expense account and a bar in the lobby. One notable revolution was started in a pub and we should give John Adam's family credit.

With your call to action, do you mean management, or ALPA?

Surely you realize we work in a profession, which by it's disciplined nature tends to be autocratic. Dissenting views are not included inside the circle. This makes sense in management, where the Company pays us for our service and reasonably expects our full cooperation in return.

Ideally, ALPA is a member run organization directed from the hands of the members who pay for it's service with the labor of those hands. The reality is power has been consolidated in a way as to prevent the democratic function of the association. Members are allowed to voice their opinions, but non-member administrators have much more actual power over the strategic direction of our association than the membership does.

A few from our forum have run for office and were elected over candidates who had serious admin support and leverage. This forum does have some political power as a springboard for those who aspire to hands on leadership.

So, I think your challenge has been accepted and to some extent achieved. Progress will go slow until we get a small legion of civilians over here who think outside the chain of command. They will probably demand the union they pay for actually respond to members' commands.
Damn good post.

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Old 03-09-2013, 04:52 PM
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hope this is right, I was trying to get a picture of what the AE actually was...



source: screaming captain kirk on dalpa forums.
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hope this is right, I was trying to get a picture of what the AE actually was...



source: screaming captain kirk on dalpa forums.
that is really super helpful! thanks for posting that!
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