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Old 03-08-2013, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
I personally don't get the attraction to FedEx. Yes, they make more money than we do. A lot more actually. (Cue sailing to tell us "Yeah but when you add in the value of our non-rev benefits, we're way above them.")

But seriously, I really wonder about all that back side of the clock flying. Those guys age fast. I wonder if there have been any longevity studies on FedEx/UPS pilots. I don't think the results would be pretty.
I have several Fred Ex guys in my reserve unit. They agree...if you take away the money the job has a brutal side to it. The non-rev thing is a non-issue. They pick their favorite airline and wrack up frequent flyer miles. They commute extremely easy to their trips. Their company is growing. They are getting 757's and new hires are getting 777's off the street. Flanigan retires today and most of our seniority list won't ever see the 777 / 744. I get why these guys have left. If you want to fly big jets and travel the world, FX is a good place to be.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale
I have several Fred Ex guys in my reserve unit. They agree...if you take away the money the job has a brutal side to it. The non-rev thing is a non-issue. They pick their favorite airline and wrack up frequent flyer miles. They commute extremely easy to their trips. Their company is growing. They are getting 757's and new hires are getting 777's off the street. Flanigan retires today and most of our seniority list won't ever see the 777 / 744. I get why these guys have left. If you want to fly big jets and travel the world, FX is a good place to be.
Yeah, but they don't get to party with our hot flight attendants...wait, oh, nevermind
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale
I have several Fred Ex guys in my reserve unit. They agree...if you take away the money the job has a brutal side to it. The non-rev thing is a non-issue. They pick their favorite airline and wrack up frequent flyer miles. They commute extremely easy to their trips. Their company is growing. They are getting 757's and new hires are getting 777's off the street. Flanigan retires today and most of our seniority list won't ever see the 777 / 744. I get why these guys have left. If you want to fly big jets and travel the world, FX is a good place to be.

Funny you should mention that frequent flyer thing, I just had a Fed Ex pilot on my flight from NRT-MSP last week. He was a Platinum type, sitting in First Class, and giving the Purser a hard time, asking for lots of free stuff, and more drinks, prior to push back! It's a 10:30 long flight, RELAX!

We nearly threw him off, but when he was told he would be out the door if he didn't shut the fark up, he finally did. Later the Purser came up front and said she had him on the way over to NRT a week earlier, same guy, was drunk when he got on, they had to shut him off before takeoff!

Hey, if you are going to be a douche, don't be saying, "But I'm a Fed Ex Captain..." too!
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:47 AM
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Just wait 'til they become teenagers. It doesn't get any better.
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Especially teenage girls... I hear that they turn normal once they become 22 or so.
I dread those years.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
I personally don't get the attraction to FedEx. Yes, they make more money than we do. A lot more actually. (Cue sailing to tell us "Yeah but when you add in the value of our non-rev benefits, we're way above them.")

But seriously, I really wonder about all that back side of the clock flying. Those guys age fast. I wonder if there have been any longevity studies on FedEx/UPS pilots. I don't think the results would be pretty.

I agree. The money doesn't do me much good if I die at 67. I'm personally not interested in working at Fed Ex.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:00 AM
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I dread those years.
Buckle up--you are in for the ride of your life! My twins girls straightened out at 18 and are gaining maturity every day. I sometimes ask them when the aliens made the switch!
My son just about raised himself and never gave me even a nano-second of problems.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I agree. The money doesn't do me much good if I die at 67. I'm personally not interested in working at Fed Ex.
Am I missing something? Doesn't the majority of the senior pilots here fly back of the clock widebodies because that's where the money and QOL is?
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:10 AM
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Am I missing something? Doesn't the majority of the senior pilots here fly back of the clock widebodies because that's where the money and QOL is?
Years ago when I was a DC-9 First Officer I flew a trip with a particular Captain. It was probably ten years later when I saw him again. He looked like "death-warmed-over". Yes, that bad, no exaggeration. Sure enough he was flying international.

Now he was no picture of health in his DC-9 days, but later on he was cadaver-like.

I do think however that with the change from the three man cockpits and 12 hour rules to the relief pilot era and eight hour rules the deleterious effect is lessened.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Am I missing something? Doesn't the majority of the senior pilots here fly back of the clock widebodies because that's where the money and QOL is?
Yup. Some do. And some stay on NB aircraft. It's all a matter of perspective. Before MEM closed there were A320 CAs who could easily hold DTW 744 CA.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:12 AM
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Flying international is a choice too. I have flown with many senior guys who give up the cash for a better quality of life on domestic aircraft.
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