Timbo

You know why Tiger got into trouble?

His dad always told him;

"Just focus on golf, and screw everything else!"

So he did!

ITSALLGOOD

We will soon have three mega-carriers with strong and expansive route structures. It only makes sense to me they will not let AS dominate the west coast. Can't the big guys just blanket the AS route structure with extra capacity driving down yields in the small number of markets (relative to the big 3) profitable for AS. They have big enough systems to absorb the losses with little impact. I don't think the growth in the west has much to do at all with DAL sending a message. They are positioning for a battle with AA and UA. AS will be a victim of collateral damage. Or I am way off...just as likely.

Roadkill

They finally loaded DTW73N as an AE "count preference" possibility. Last week they had ATL717 but not the new DTW 73n base.

Getting closer... "when's it gonna be, the next AE? Friday, Friday..."

Free Mason

You are correct. AS will be collateral damage. The damage will be a reduced market cap due to the street questioning their ability to perform above the industry due to pressures on their a la carte Code Share business plan. The result of this will be either AS coming to terms that they will be absorbed and going along with it before their market cap is decimated, or their market cap will take a big hit and they will be the focus of a hostile takeover.

Columbia? How do I work for? Not ALK

iaflyer

The hamsters that run DBMS are worn out - they need a 5 day weekend, so probably see the AE on Tuesday.

ITSALLGOOD

Agreed. I guess my point is this LA/SEA build up on core AS routes is no warning shot. It's the real deal...a long term strategic move.

Roadkill

Ok, let's have some speculation on DTW73N B.
Crew resources posted they will open the category with 20 "crews", so that means 20A and 20B.

LAX and SLC already go through DTW and layover there all the time, 50% of our trips could be built with DTW as the start/stop. So I'm going to assume that most of the flying will look the same as what 73n is already seeing. Crew resources doesn't say DTW will be a 900 base, just that it will be a 73n base in preparation for receiving the 900s. They don't say where those 900s will be, still.

Does anyone have some thoughts on how senior DTW73n B will go? Let's keep the focus on 2000 and later hires, since that is where the whip-saw will be for possible displacements.

After they build the base up, how will seniority at DTW compare to ATL for 73? I suspect it will reflect the same levels as other DTW vs. ATL current categories, so ER and 320 for 2000 and later hires ("new hires" lol). That means DTW would be a good bit more junior.

I have to stick DTW73n into my lineup for displacement bids, trying to decide how it might be vs. ATL for commuting, trips, seniority... And dat AE is taking sooooo long to arrive! Let's hear some thoughts!

ITSALLGOOD

Can't speculate on how junior the DTW73nB will go. I do recall JG saying the initial 900 bases would be ATL, DTW and NYC. LAX and SLC were not planned to have 900 flying based there for 2-3 years. Of course everyone could fly them in the course of a rotation.

Jughead

Nothing to do with the subject at hand, but my gripe d'jour - Flightline - I ordered that expense report on Dec 15, Turbotax was finished 3 weeks ago, and it's all that's holding me up.

I was on hold for 25 minutes to have somebody tell me it should be soon.

Anybody else having this problem?

Nevermore!

Elvis90

Free Mason, in the spirit of the free exchange of ideas...



Who do you work for, if not Alaska? Delta?