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Old 03-05-2013, 12:33 PM
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Put out the NOTAM - Denny Crane and Ferd together for 3 legs (ok I'll be doing dinner and a movie while he is job'en) and 4 layovers! Guess I'll hit an ATM

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Holy cow!!! I'm staying on the ground!!!
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:54 PM
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Holy cow!!! I'm staying on the ground!!!
I'm sure it will be on the ATIS:

"Pilots should be aware, migratory Ferds and Denny's operating in the area.."
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Put out the NOTAM - Denny Crane and Ferd together for 3 legs (ok I'll be doing dinner and a movie while he is job'en) and 4 layovers! Guess I'll hit an ATM

Ferd

Something sounds engineered about that...I guess it's easy when you're Denny Crane. Are there any open seats, I'm always up for happy hour?
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:28 PM
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Off subject sort of, but on my last layover, someone mentioned that the Trainer Refiery Fuel Guru, you know, the guy who just suddenly left, just a few weeks ago, was indicted for insider trading.

Anyone see anything in the WSJ or elsewhere about this?

I was wondering why he up and left so quickly.
"Also, there seems to be another indication of troubles in Delta’s vertical-integration strategy of purchasing a refinery as a fuel hedge. The ex-oil-trader-turned-Delta-VP-of-Fuel, Jon Ruggles, left the company quite abruptly late last year. Ruggles, a key person behind the Trainer refinery deal, was hired away from Merrill Lynch less than a year ago to head Delta’s trading operation. Rumor has it that Ruggles' exit from Delta was somehow related to losses at the Trainer plant."

Delta Airlines Got an Oil Refinery: The Math Does Not Work | EconMatters

"The man who from all accounts was central to that deal getting done was Jon Ruggles, a former trader who headed Delta’s jet purchasing. At the Philadelphia press conference announcing the deal, Ruggles was up at the front, along with the political dignitaries from the city and state, along with the the airline’s senior management.

And now he’s gone.

As Platts’ Matt Kohlman reported Friday, Ruggles has left Delta for unknown reasons. A Delta spokesman confirmed his departure without elaborating as to the reasons."

The man who drove the Trainer acquisition has left Delta Airlines « The Barrel Blog
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
"Also, there seems to be another indication of troubles in Delta’s vertical-integration strategy of purchasing a refinery as a fuel hedge. The ex-oil-trader-turned-Delta-VP-of-Fuel, Jon Ruggles, left the company quite abruptly late last year. Ruggles, a key person behind the Trainer refinery deal, was hired away from Merrill Lynch less than a year ago to head Delta’s trading operation. Rumor has it that Ruggles' exit from Delta was somehow related to losses at the Trainer plant."

Delta Airlines Got an Oil Refinery: The Math Does Not Work | EconMatters

The man who drove the Trainer acquisition has left Delta Airlines « The Barrel Blog
Note that came out over a month ago. DL's latest reports sharply disagree with that.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Note that came out over a month ago. DL's latest reports sharply disagree with that.
Do you mean with respect to profit or WRT the departure of Ruggles?
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Put out the NOTAM - Denny Crane and Ferd together for 3 legs (ok I'll be doing dinner and a movie while he is job'en) and 4 layovers! Guess I'll hit an ATM

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Just remember, Denny... you're running with the barefoot kenyan. Watch the master in his element!
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:42 PM
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Friends are starting to get interview letters from United. That's off the street...they have already gone through the list of guys who got offers but not class dates back in 07-08.

Are they immune from the economy that's holding us back? Or are they just not as big on capacity discipline?
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:47 PM
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Friends are starting to get interview letters from United. That's off the street...they have already gone through the list of guys who got offers but not class dates back in 07-08.

Are they immune from the economy that's holding us back? Or are they just not as big on capacity discipline?
If that's the case then Delta better get ready for some competition. We're getting back to the days when qualified pilots will have three offers from different companies.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:50 PM
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Friends are starting to get interview letters from United. That's off the street...they have already gone through the list of guys who got offers but not class dates back in 07-08.

Are they immune from the economy that's holding us back? Or are they just not as big on capacity discipline?
Neither. It's because they have 550 unfilled vacancies on the CAL side, & 600+ UAL furloughs who have yet to return because they don't want to go to the bottom of the CAL side until the ISL is complete.
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