Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-03-2013, 10:34 AM
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All I know is i've been working my butt off on reserve compared to a year or two ago. Getting 6 short calls most months instead of 2 or 3 in the past. As I've stated before about the ALV+15-it doesn't matter whether or not we actually fly to that number-it's the fact that we CAN, and that's why we need less bodies. Theres lots of "leeway" now in how many hours we can work. I just don't see how some of you guys don't understand this.
That being said, losing the option to not exceed ALV does stink.
03-03-2013, 10:41 AM
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You're likely working your butt off because of the new reserve assignment rules, not ALV+15. 1-2 years ago there was no seniority on reserve. Now there is. Your workload is likely amplified if you're junior in a smaller category. IMO, we will be hiring this fall.
That being said, losing the option to not exceed ALV does stink.
That being said, losing the option to not exceed ALV does stink.
Don't forget that when the new rest rules come in, across the board a 7th short call will be implemented, despite the fact that only the international categories are affected. By far the majority of my rsv assignments come from short call... that is going to be a pretty big staffing hit in the domestic categories when it is implemented.
03-03-2013, 10:51 AM
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ALV+15 was there to offset trip parking in the big widebody categories, yet it was implemented across the board.
Don't forget that when the new rest rules come in, that across the board a 7th short call will be implemented, despite the fact that only the international categories are affected. By far the majority of my rsv assignments come from short call... that is going to be a pretty big staffing hit in the domestic categories when it is implemented.
Don't forget that when the new rest rules come in, that across the board a 7th short call will be implemented, despite the fact that only the international categories are affected. By far the majority of my rsv assignments come from short call... that is going to be a pretty big staffing hit in the domestic categories when it is implemented.
03-03-2013, 10:52 AM
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You're likely working your butt off because of the new reserve assignment rules, not ALV+15. 1-2 years ago there was no seniority on reserve. Now there is. Your workload is likely amplified if you're junior in a smaller category. IMO, we will be hiring this fall.
That being said, losing the option to not exceed ALV does stink.
That being said, losing the option to not exceed ALV does stink.
I'd love for you to be right about hiring.
03-03-2013, 11:02 AM
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We did not gain any jobs in this TA. WE lost a very small number of jobs. It's difficult to decrease productivity and increase jobs when you are already one of the less productive airlines. It's a tough sell through the NMB where we would have ended up.
There is one other aspect not mentioned and not costed for jobs in this contract. I am flying less with the raises. My total income is not going up but I am working less. That's my choice but several friends are doing the same. That will add jobs over time.
There is one other aspect not mentioned and not costed for jobs in this contract. I am flying less with the raises. My total income is not going up but I am working less. That's my choice but several friends are doing the same. That will add jobs over time.
03-03-2013, 11:06 AM
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True, but seniority has never been as involved with reserve to the depth it is now. True, it helped with what days off one could hold, but WRT trip assignments and SC assignments, seniority played little to no role.
03-03-2013, 11:15 AM
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True, but you're junior in your category. How many SCs are the reserves in the top 20%-30% sitting? Plus, won't SCs being reduced from 24 hours to 14 hours on the WBs require more WB pilot's? Thereby offsetting the hit to NB categories and providing more higher paying positions?
It won't require more WB pilots as the 7th short call offsets it. So, its an offset on the WB categories and is a concession in the NB categories. Less pilots required and less pay for all.
03-03-2013, 11:20 AM
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They are sitting 4-5... SCs are the biggest green slip reducer, and scheduling is trying to do that as much as possible. That's also why ALV+15 will be utilized... we gave them a tool, so why wouldn't they use it?
It won't require more WB pilots as the 7th short call offsets it. So, its an offset on the WB categories and is a concession in the NB categories. Less pilots required and less pay for all.
It won't require more WB pilots as the 7th short call offsets it. So, its an offset on the WB categories and is a concession in the NB categories. Less pilots required and less pay for all.
03-03-2013, 11:29 AM
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03-03-2013, 11:33 AM
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Heck, I've gone from sitting 3 SCs a month to maxing out or sitting 5 in the past 6 months... everyone has in my category that is on rsv.
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