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Old 03-02-2013, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Thank you for your condescending and completely short-sighted reply.

Your argument sounds an awful like the stuff you hear from gun control zealots: "Why would you want an assault rifle unless you're going on a killing spree?"

I'm not worried about "getting mine;" I rarely call in sick. I'm not necessarily even worried about that stipulation now or in the immediate future. But "this is the way it's worked in the past" is a p!ss poor substitute for ironclad contractual protection (which, historically, we shouldn't expect from ALPA).

I'm concerned that future leadership administrations will use this to take hostages if things get heated in future contract talks, etc. (not that's even possible with ALPA on their side).

Have you seen what Smisek, Horton, Parker, Tilton, etc. have tried to pull? If you think Sleepy Ed or the next sociopath to run the company won't come after us with every loophole they can find if we start growing a spine, I guess I can't help you.

Wouldn't it be nice if ALPA thought a few moves ahead? Think of it as chess, not "go fish."
Would you rather have it the way it is now, or the way it was before?

You're welcome. I appreciate the same in return.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:50 PM
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Have I recently read that people are experiencing delays with expense reports by Flightline?
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Would you rather have it the way it is now, or the way it was before?

"Would you rather have it terrible or just awful?"

It should have been done right.

If this is the best ALPA can do when the company's making billions, I'd say you've done a magnificent job lowering expectations.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Have I recently read that people are experiencing delays with expense reports by Flightline?
I put in for mine in December. Just received it yesterday. I would call that a delay.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank

"Would you rather have it terrible or just awful?"

It should have been done right.

If this is the best ALPA can do when the company's making billions, I'd say you've done a magnificent job lowering expectations.
Then what enhancements do you propose? Unlimited, unmonitored, paid personal leave? Is that what Delta owes you for being a company making billions of dollars? Conversely the passengers could suggest they want a fraction of their ticket price back by the same logic. Would you support that?

It was done right. You're digging deep on this one. A truly honorable and honest pilot group wouldn't need ALPA's protection from a sick leave investigation at all. In this case though, ALPA went to bat for those who insisted on abusing an already fair system.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Then what enhancements do you propose? Unlimited, unmonitored, paid personal leave? Is that what Delta owes you for being a company making billions of dollars? Conversely the passengers could suggest they want a fraction of their ticket price back by the same logic. Would you support that?

It was done right. You're digging deep on this one. A truly honorable and honest pilot group wouldn't need ALPA's protection from a sick leave investigation at all. In this case though, ALPA went to bat for those who insisted on abusing an already fair system.
Interesting perspective. nevermind.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:50 PM
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Any chance we can get some of these to haul our gear during gate changes in ATL?



And one with a head to deal with rowdy PAX?

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Old 03-02-2013, 02:01 PM
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Any bros laying over in downtown Minny tomorrow (Sunday) nite? I've got a super long layover. It's time for an APC board meeting.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I put in for mine in December. Just received it yesterday. I would call that a delay.
Looks like I'll be using someone else this year. Thanks.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Looks like I'll be using someone else this year. Thanks.
I just used pro-diem for the first time. Took 3 days to get it back. I likey!
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