Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-14-2009, 10:12 AM
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DL 777-300ER (Aug 13, 2009 10:06:23 AM)
According to the Delta Blog, 101 former NW planes have been painted with 139 left to be painted. That totals 240 planes to be painted in the new DL colors. Currently, the NW mainline fleet is over 300 planes. Does this mean we will ground over 60 former NW mainline planes?
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:06:23 AM)
You know, I really don't know where that number came from, but we have no current plans to ground any additional aircraft than we have previously announced, and we intend to paint all of the Northwest airplanes. I think the TOC team has made some great progress painting this many airplanes so quickly and I am sure we can count on them to have the job completed on time.
yclops (Aug 13, 2009 10:16:58 AM)
Any chance Delta might try to outbid Southwest for Frontier Airlines? It would seem like 160 million for 40 airbuses would be a good deal. I'd rather see more airbuses than MD-90s.
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:16:58 AM)
The MD90 is a far superior aircraft economically than the Airbus. That’s why we are looking to acquire more. I have no idea where the WN bid will wind up, but we do know they will need to have deep pockets if they are serious about winning.
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:24:22 AM)
There are a number of questions regarding CVG and how it relates to yesterday's announcement regarding LGA. Let me try to answer them the best I can.
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:26:10 AM)
1.) The aircraft for LGA will come from under-performing markets across the entire network as well as the aircraft "freed" by our reductions in DCA. CVG will not be singled out as a target, but does continue to have more than the average number of underperforming markets so yes, some will come from CVG.
2.) Our local market pricing reductions have worked quite well, and I am sure you can see that the number of people coming through the front door of the airport is up significantly versus before the fare restructuring.
3.) As we continue to evolve our presence in CVG we will continue to focus on the successful large O&D markets and be less reliant on flow markets with little or no local traffic to CVG. We can do this since the CVG local market size has expanded with the fare restructuring
Lastly, our ultimate goal is to find a profitable solution for CVG. We will continue to evolve this hub as market conditions change.
DL 777-300ER (Aug 13, 2009 10:06:23 AM)
According to the Delta Blog, 101 former NW planes have been painted with 139 left to be painted. That totals 240 planes to be painted in the new DL colors. Currently, the NW mainline fleet is over 300 planes. Does this mean we will ground over 60 former NW mainline planes?
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:06:23 AM)
You know, I really don't know where that number came from, but we have no current plans to ground any additional aircraft than we have previously announced, and we intend to paint all of the Northwest airplanes. I think the TOC team has made some great progress painting this many airplanes so quickly and I am sure we can count on them to have the job completed on time.
yclops (Aug 13, 2009 10:16:58 AM)
Any chance Delta might try to outbid Southwest for Frontier Airlines? It would seem like 160 million for 40 airbuses would be a good deal. I'd rather see more airbuses than MD-90s.
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:16:58 AM)
The MD90 is a far superior aircraft economically than the Airbus. That’s why we are looking to acquire more. I have no idea where the WN bid will wind up, but we do know they will need to have deep pockets if they are serious about winning.
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:24:22 AM)
There are a number of questions regarding CVG and how it relates to yesterday's announcement regarding LGA. Let me try to answer them the best I can.
Glen Hauenstein (Aug 13, 2009 10:26:10 AM)
1.) The aircraft for LGA will come from under-performing markets across the entire network as well as the aircraft "freed" by our reductions in DCA. CVG will not be singled out as a target, but does continue to have more than the average number of underperforming markets so yes, some will come from CVG.
2.) Our local market pricing reductions have worked quite well, and I am sure you can see that the number of people coming through the front door of the airport is up significantly versus before the fare restructuring.
3.) As we continue to evolve our presence in CVG we will continue to focus on the successful large O&D markets and be less reliant on flow markets with little or no local traffic to CVG. We can do this since the CVG local market size has expanded with the fare restructuring
Lastly, our ultimate goal is to find a profitable solution for CVG. We will continue to evolve this hub as market conditions change.
08-14-2009, 10:13 AM
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08-14-2009, 10:44 AM
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08-14-2009, 11:11 AM
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Published: August 14, 2009
The Boeing Company has hit another snag in building its 787 Dreamliner, one that stock analysts say seems minor but will nevertheless raise more questions about when the plane will be ready for a test flight.
Boeing confirmed Friday that it had instructed an Italian company, Alenia Aeronautica, in June to stop making additional fuselage sections for the passenger plane after small wrinkles were found in the carbon composite skin.
The order to stop production came the same day Boeing executives announced that the 787’s first flight would be delayed indefinitely to fix a structural flaw where the wings join the fuselage.
Blah blah blah. Delayed.
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Is this 787 turning into the modern day L1011?
The Boeing Company has hit another snag in building its 787 Dreamliner, one that stock analysts say seems minor but will nevertheless raise more questions about when the plane will be ready for a test flight.
Boeing confirmed Friday that it had instructed an Italian company, Alenia Aeronautica, in June to stop making additional fuselage sections for the passenger plane after small wrinkles were found in the carbon composite skin.
The order to stop production came the same day Boeing executives announced that the 787’s first flight would be delayed indefinitely to fix a structural flaw where the wings join the fuselage.
Blah blah blah. Delayed.
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Is this 787 turning into the modern day L1011?
08-14-2009, 11:13 AM
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If Compass is sold, the flow must go with it. Seems like a very large
deterrent as BB & RAH have enough labor problems to deal with in the near future.
08-14-2009, 11:35 AM
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Some observations of Mr. Moak's presentation and Q&A at the Compass Road Show in MSP yesterday:
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough.
2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements.
3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline".
4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers.
5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it.
6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards.
All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now.
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough.
2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements.
3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline".
4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers.
5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it.
6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards.
All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now.
08-14-2009, 11:37 AM
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"Hey Ya'll watch this!!!!!" Soon to be followed by "Oh SH__!!!!!!!"
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Isn't the word "Y'all?" As in the New Delta slogan "Hey y'all. Wanna come with?" I'm just asking cuz I'm new to this whole South thing.
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[/quote]Isn't the word "Y'all?" As in the New Delta slogan "Hey y'all. Wanna come with?" I'm just asking cuz I'm new to this whole South thing.
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08-14-2009, 12:08 PM
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Isn't the word "Y'all?" As in the New Delta slogan "Hey y'all. Wanna come with?" I'm just asking cuz I'm new to this whole South thing.
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Gnewt..quite observant of you. The apostrophe in Y`all takes the place of "ou"... Since you are probably a yankee and are trying to learn our language, please remember that Y`all is pural, but only applies to a small group, maybe two or three people. More than that number would be " all y`all". BTW, mecca is pronounced "Adlanna", that drink that is now served on former NM aircraft is known as "Ko-kola". We don`t drink "pop' or "sodas"
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Gnewt..quite observant of you. The apostrophe in Y`all takes the place of "ou"... Since you are probably a yankee and are trying to learn our language, please remember that Y`all is pural, but only applies to a small group, maybe two or three people. More than that number would be " all y`all". BTW, mecca is pronounced "Adlanna", that drink that is now served on former NM aircraft is known as "Ko-kola". We don`t drink "pop' or "sodas"
08-14-2009, 12:23 PM
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08-14-2009, 12:26 PM
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Some observations of Mr. Moak's presentation and Q&A at the Compass Road Show in MSP yesterday:
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough.
2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements.
3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline".
4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers.
5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it.
6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards.
All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now.
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough.
2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements.
3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline".
4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers.
5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it.
6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards.
All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now.
Sounds like he means business. Not the direction this pilot group needs to take.
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