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Old 02-27-2013, 04:56 PM
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Yep, you're exactly right on that johnso, it's all speculation just now I sure hope I'm wrong and some of these effects are reduced in concert with each other. And honestly, every time you read about this, don't you think, "those clever, clever bastiges! Thank gawd they're running the airline".
I guess I reserve my half-full goggles for rumors, when I'm like a 95% full guy

I'm all burned out for two month's math now, and have already forgotten all this in favor of DTW and Livonia food reviews! My urge to provide a check and balance has been sated.

Online cafe is good for breakfast too, decent sausage/egg/cheese muffins and pre-made with no line for decent price. Also the chicken wings are good there.
Max and Erma's has good salads.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
BUT... that's not the real story or when this huge concession becomes active or important to us! This becomes important two to four years from now, when we have shrunk, and yet no hiring triggers have been met and we mgt is still able to run the airline with the current pilots. However, YOUR time home is reduced, your QOL is reduced. Maybe you get some more hours during summer months, but the option those hours replace is un-hired pilots behind you who don't exist now!
Did you not read a previous post by an LAX based pilot saying they expected to interview (flowthroughs) in Dec. '12, and run classes in early '14? Or that they would need 50/mo. in mid-2014 to staff the 737-9s & 717's?

The rest of your post was blah, blah, blah. Everyone is ignorant, actual quote was about a pig and a fool.

I for one have stated that I didn't think they'd hire (off the street) until late 2015, with classes running in 2016. Now, with the competition being stronger, (e.g. merged AA & UAL) as well as the flying coming back to mainline (i.e. 717's), I choose to remain optimistic about our running new-hire classes next year instead the doom & gloom of everyone saying we "gave up hiring due to increasing everyone's productivity".

Why is that FERD doesn't frequent this site much anymore? Enjoy your last half of glass of whatever it is you're drinking, mine is still half full.

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Old 02-27-2013, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Josephus
These groups always crack me up... if it's worth so much, then someone will pay for it. Don't expect me to subsidize your love affair with architecture.

They would rather make a law restricting how you can use your property because they think it is cool. Take a picture, put it in a book....
Such are the collectivists and their "greater good" illusions of "democracy" (which they don't really even understand we aren't).

Anyway like someone said, if we are copensated enough we can keep it. If someone wants to restore it on their dime, we can demolish the gate portion and still get 85% of the super premium alleyway we're building (still haven't bought off on that concept but whatever).

Heck maybe we can kick in 10% and turn it into a kick tail sky lounge.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
My "little graph" is based on the IAAC's graph, it's just the portion covered by the current compliance period starting April 2011.

The summer schedules 2013 are pretty much set (you have to load flights in advance after all to sell the tickets) for winter these are the projections of the IAAC.

Simply reaching 50% doesn't cause a "reset."
It's the average that has to reach 50% on a 3-year lookback.

There is a provision in 1.P.4 Note Two that let's the company start a new 3-year compliance window if we reach 49.75% on a 12-month lookback, maybe that's what you had in mind?

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Correct. It's what I was referring to. Near 50% in May and projections on both sides of the Atlantic after that. No contractual trigger for compliance until 2015. Plenty of time for a 12 month look back to get within that .25%.

Also just think, compliance as required by the PWA is in March of 2015, merely weeks before Section 6 openers. I bet if we do not see a contractual extension that the non compliance grievance and subsequent arbitration could very well get wrapped up in new TA.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Okay, I'm asking this once a year but it's because I always just end up at McDonalds. If you're a cheapo but want good food, the best place to eat in DTW airport is...
Coney Island (express on the south end). Ham 'egger for breakfast. Gyro for lunch. Both awesome, both huge, both around 5 bucks.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

The true reason for ALV+15 was the long 12-14 day trips flying to the Pacific that in the summertime frequently are worth 85+ hours.
This is great news! Easy fix. Now all DALPA has to do is invoke some of its "constructive engagement" with the company to alter the wording such that ALV +15 applies only for reserves called out for Pacific 12-14 day trips. Nothing could be simpler.

Gosh, and we thought domestic reserves we were going to get hosed. Silly us.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:34 PM
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:41 PM
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Diegos, which is directly under the South end train stop (around gate 18) has some great take out salads. They are not the typical airport salads (6 inches of lettuce underneath 1/2 inch of the good stuff) but are actually very substantial . The Santa-Fe Chicken salad is my favorite and they also give a discount.

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Old 02-27-2013, 06:42 PM
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OK....I'll ask. What happened with the 747 rumor? Was it complete BS?
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:44 PM
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Sit down coney in dtw has breakfast all day fwiw.
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