Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-27-2013, 08:35 AM
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My quote should have read 80 hours for guarantee.
On point, though, I bet it's going to be somewhat aggressive when they are tight. They are on a green slip mitigation binge, and it's been quite frequent to break up a trip to make it fit on my rsv days.
I just love how we eliminated trip parking and gave them something much more onerous that can be used throughout all categories.
On point, though, I bet it's going to be somewhat aggressive when they are tight. They are on a green slip mitigation binge, and it's been quite frequent to break up a trip to make it fit on my rsv days.
I just love how we eliminated trip parking and gave them something much more onerous that can be used throughout all categories.
02-27-2013, 08:44 AM
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02-27-2013, 09:06 AM
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Council 44 notes - this guy is downright funny!
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The Phantom Speaks
Speculation continues to run rampant about the size of a narrow-body order. Up to 50 from a vendor is possible. Which vendor? Well the Phantom doesn’t have any facts, but apparently the manufacturer had something in common with _____toast, ______fries, ______maids, and a place Lance Armstrong is associated with. Just sayin’.
Fill in the blank…
Further progression is also rumored to be coming in our fleet as well:
A319,
A320,
A___.
4, 8.5, 3, 3 is steady progression but the Phantom was thinking “Hey! When’s the next ‘event’
so we can move even further ahead?” Well . . .
Most Favorable Merger Partner
Hats Leather Jackets
Airline A No Yes û
Airline B No Yes û
Airline C Yes No ü
Airline T No Yes. û
Here’s another riddle…
Q. What do 46°53'01"N 102°47'20"W, 17,787 people, 7,521 households, 4,308 families, and Delta Air Lines have in common?
A: Dickinson, North Dakota. One of the new routes and destinations for 2013 that keep adding up. It may not sound fancy, but apparently it’s a valuable market. Who knew?
In addition to the others in the merger, SWA is having another teachable moment. They can’t requal their AirTran 717 pilots for CQ because someone has bought up all the simulator time in the country. They may have to train in CHINA! That means buying their guys tickets on . . .wait for it . . . Delta!
More merger rumors . . . Now that Southwest is completing the integration of AirTran, are they eyeballing someone else? Perhaps someone far from Atlanta? Can their fleet of 737s be ETOPS certified?
This summer looks like it could be a hot one (for GSs). Plan accordingly. Or, if you’re like the Phantom and you’d like the summer off, bid the 717.
Management put some lithium-ion batteries in their business-plan calculators and came up with the conclusion that the Delta pilots will have to wait for the 787. But . . . it was made public at the company Leadership Conference. They’re thinking about a wide-body order . . . one condition . . . it actually has to fly.
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The Phantom Speaks
Speculation continues to run rampant about the size of a narrow-body order. Up to 50 from a vendor is possible. Which vendor? Well the Phantom doesn’t have any facts, but apparently the manufacturer had something in common with _____toast, ______fries, ______maids, and a place Lance Armstrong is associated with. Just sayin’.
Fill in the blank…
Further progression is also rumored to be coming in our fleet as well:
A319,
A320,
A___.
4, 8.5, 3, 3 is steady progression but the Phantom was thinking “Hey! When’s the next ‘event’
so we can move even further ahead?” Well . . .
Most Favorable Merger Partner
Hats Leather Jackets
Airline A No Yes û
Airline B No Yes û
Airline C Yes No ü
Airline T No Yes. û
Here’s another riddle…
Q. What do 46°53'01"N 102°47'20"W, 17,787 people, 7,521 households, 4,308 families, and Delta Air Lines have in common?
A: Dickinson, North Dakota. One of the new routes and destinations for 2013 that keep adding up. It may not sound fancy, but apparently it’s a valuable market. Who knew?
In addition to the others in the merger, SWA is having another teachable moment. They can’t requal their AirTran 717 pilots for CQ because someone has bought up all the simulator time in the country. They may have to train in CHINA! That means buying their guys tickets on . . .wait for it . . . Delta!
More merger rumors . . . Now that Southwest is completing the integration of AirTran, are they eyeballing someone else? Perhaps someone far from Atlanta? Can their fleet of 737s be ETOPS certified?
This summer looks like it could be a hot one (for GSs). Plan accordingly. Or, if you’re like the Phantom and you’d like the summer off, bid the 717.
Management put some lithium-ion batteries in their business-plan calculators and came up with the conclusion that the Delta pilots will have to wait for the 787. But . . . it was made public at the company Leadership Conference. They’re thinking about a wide-body order . . . one condition . . . it actually has to fly.
02-27-2013, 09:23 AM
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Ferd, going for non sequitur post of the year. ...
FO Version
Captain version ?
What the heck has any of this got to do with Average Line Value and the fact Delta's min staffing model is going to be green slip heaven (if you're into that kind of thing)? I wouldn't get my hands dirty with any of them, but Jennifer Grey, pre rhinoplasty as a aerobatic pilot in Wind kinda caught my fancy as something I could get into.
FO Version
Captain version ?
What the heck has any of this got to do with Average Line Value and the fact Delta's min staffing model is going to be green slip heaven (if you're into that kind of thing)? I wouldn't get my hands dirty with any of them, but Jennifer Grey, pre rhinoplasty as a aerobatic pilot in Wind kinda caught my fancy as something I could get into.
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02-27-2013, 09:38 AM
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If ALV is 80, your guarantee is 78, so at 77:59 you're good for another trip. Only when you hit 78 are you done.
You're good for a 17:01 trip then!
IIRC rsv guarantee does not go above 78, amirite?
So if ALV is 82, then you can be taken at 77:59 for a 19:01 trip instead.
You're good for a 17:01 trip then!
IIRC rsv guarantee does not go above 78, amirite?
So if ALV is 82, then you can be taken at 77:59 for a 19:01 trip instead.
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02-27-2013, 09:41 AM
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The contract states this...
Sec 23 d.2
A reserve pilot will NOT be required to remain on call after his accumulated credit equals or exceeds his reserve guarantee.
Guarantee is ALV-2, so I think you're full at ALV-2.
02-27-2013, 09:47 AM
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The rub is going to be how much Skeds modify pairings to keep people just under the limit. My strategy will be to YS to just over the ALV then turn off the phone.
02-27-2013, 09:48 AM
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The first real test of the recently added PWA language efficacy will be when it comes to how PWA 1.E.8 applies to the VA JV....
I will be the first to admit that I was underwhelmed that all we managed to secure is 75% of Delta's share of the revenue to be flown by Delta pilots.
After all the Transatlantic JV secures nearly 100% of Delta's revenue share to be flown by Delta pilots.
Yet Delta purchasing a 49% financial stake in Virgin Atlantic is something completely different from any JV agreement we've had in the past. Here's what it says in the PWA when it comes to Delta's revenue share of JV and how that relates to what percentage of flying will be performed by Delta pilots:
Delta pilots should fly 55.8% of all DAL/VA JV flying
(per PWA 1.E.8 75% share of Delta's 74.5% JV revenue share)
If our NC can use 1.E.8 to secure 55.8% of the Delta Virgin JV flying for Delta pilots it will be a huge win and a big increase in WB Europe flying.
Cheers
George
I will be the first to admit that I was underwhelmed that all we managed to secure is 75% of Delta's share of the revenue to be flown by Delta pilots.
After all the Transatlantic JV secures nearly 100% of Delta's revenue share to be flown by Delta pilots.
Yet Delta purchasing a 49% financial stake in Virgin Atlantic is something completely different from any JV agreement we've had in the past. Here's what it says in the PWA when it comes to Delta's revenue share of JV and how that relates to what percentage of flying will be performed by Delta pilots:
PWA 1.E.8
...in each trailing twelve-month period measured...each calendar quarter, the Company’s share of revenue block hours flown under the profit/loss sharing agreement will be at least 75% of the Company’s share of revenue...
...in each trailing twelve-month period measured...each calendar quarter, the Company’s share of revenue block hours flown under the profit/loss sharing agreement will be at least 75% of the Company’s share of revenue...
- Delta has a 49% share in Virgin Atlantic Revenue.
- Delta has a 100% share in Delta Revenue.
- Delta has a 74.5% share of the total DAL VA JV revenue.
Delta pilots should fly 55.8% of all DAL/VA JV flying
(per PWA 1.E.8 75% share of Delta's 74.5% JV revenue share)
If our NC can use 1.E.8 to secure 55.8% of the Delta Virgin JV flying for Delta pilots it will be a huge win and a big increase in WB Europe flying.
Cheers
George
02-27-2013, 09:50 AM
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What I said: (note the bolding)
Here's what you asked:
If he is at 80 hours, then yes, he is full.. if he is at 79:59, he is not full and up for up to a 17:01 trip. I'm not sure how what I stated was confusing.
If he is at 80 hours, then yes, he is full.. if he is at 79:59, he is not full and up for up to a 17:01 trip. I'm not sure how what I stated was confusing.
02-27-2013, 09:54 AM
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Regardless, none of us will be correct until we have solid data to back up our individual theories. Until then, all of us debating over what will happen is pointless.
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