Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-26-2013, 08:38 AM
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ALV+15 is going to prove to be a costly QOL concession not to mention the hiring it postponed. Anyone coming from a regional knows it will prove to be a miserable existence for a reserve. Just because they haven't been able to schedule that way in the past doesn't mean they won't. It's a slow slide to regional work rules.
ALPA had to give up the moral high ground to facilitate outsourcing. After all, if it safe for a regional to perform this sort of operation, when why not mainline?
By setting a separate standard which was "safe" at the regional, it was obvious where the long term trend was heading. Safe enough for ASA is safe enough for Delta, especially when you have the same managers revolving through flight operations from one Company to the other.
... and this loops back to my concerns about ALPA not following the Admin Manual. It is about more than just scope. It is about all areas of the contract which one group might fight for and another group undermine.
02-26-2013, 08:39 AM
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They say they do not plan on posting openings on the 88 on the next AE and do not need to post openings for Summer 2013 flying.
As to displacements off the 88, they think enough will bid the 717 not to have to post displacements. If more than enough AE off the 88, then they may even do some backfilling if enough bid off.
But right now, the 88 is overstaffed.... at 10 pilots per plane.
02-26-2013, 08:41 AM
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According to the March Crew Planning newsletter, the M88 is currently overstaffed on both the A and B positions even with the additional 13 MD90s coming (135 pilots in M88 staffing world).
They say they do not plan on posting openings on the 88 on the next AE and do not need to post openings for Summer 2013 flying.
As to displacements off the 88, they think enough will bid the 717 not to have to post displacements. If more than enough AE off the 88, then they may even do some backfilling if enough bid off.
But right now, the 88 is overstaffed.... at 10 pilots per plane.
They say they do not plan on posting openings on the 88 on the next AE and do not need to post openings for Summer 2013 flying.
As to displacements off the 88, they think enough will bid the 717 not to have to post displacements. If more than enough AE off the 88, then they may even do some backfilling if enough bid off.
But right now, the 88 is overstaffed.... at 10 pilots per plane.
02-26-2013, 08:52 AM
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It's going to be painfully clear this summer for junior reserves in large categories and ALL reserves in larger ones. Things like golden days are going to gain sudden importance.
Basically we sold ALV plus 15 for a 2 hr increase in monthly line guarantee during the slow season. Yes we got a substantial increase in guarantee during the busy months but through use of a yellow slip a pilot had the OPTION to work more if he/she desired anyway so it was rediculously stupid IMO. There are money people and QOL people. The ALV +15 OPTION satisfied both but alas we sold it for cheap. We sold even more valuable seniority enhancement through the hiring that would be taking place as well. Think of how much more lucrative an AE with upgrades and category openings (options...remember that word?) is than displacements and 2 hr bump in guarantee.
Basically we sold ALV plus 15 for a 2 hr increase in monthly line guarantee during the slow season. Yes we got a substantial increase in guarantee during the busy months but through use of a yellow slip a pilot had the OPTION to work more if he/she desired anyway so it was rediculously stupid IMO. There are money people and QOL people. The ALV +15 OPTION satisfied both but alas we sold it for cheap. We sold even more valuable seniority enhancement through the hiring that would be taking place as well. Think of how much more lucrative an AE with upgrades and category openings (options...remember that word?) is than displacements and 2 hr bump in guarantee.
02-26-2013, 08:52 AM
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Only when flights are cancelled and too many greenslips are going out will the writing be on the wall for hiring.
02-26-2013, 09:21 AM
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If anyone can pull the number of 88A's on RES in ATL a year ago vs. today I think we will see a significant decrease.
In regards to the contract, I often hear guys say that they voted yes because they didn't think we could get more. I think it's becoming apparent that the reason to vote no was that we gave too much!
In regards to the contract, I often hear guys say that they voted yes because they didn't think we could get more. I think it's becoming apparent that the reason to vote no was that we gave too much!
02-26-2013, 09:32 AM
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Are we putting lie flats in 757s or do they just mean the international business elite seats that it already has?
"Delta is also enhancing the sleep experience by expanding full flat-bed seating. Delta is introducing full flat-bed seats in the BusinessElite cabin of all transcontinental flights operating between New York and Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle beginning in March 2013. All of Delta's Boeing 757 and 767 aircraft serving these transcontinental markets will offer the flatbed seats over the next 24 months. Delta's decision to install full flat-bed seats on its transcontinental flights complements the airline's current investment in full flat-bed seats on its entire international widebody fleet of more than 140 aircraft. By the end of 2013, 70 percent of all Delta aircraft will have flat beds and, in early 2014, Delta's entire widebody fleet is scheduled to be complete."
"Delta is also enhancing the sleep experience by expanding full flat-bed seating. Delta is introducing full flat-bed seats in the BusinessElite cabin of all transcontinental flights operating between New York and Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle beginning in March 2013. All of Delta's Boeing 757 and 767 aircraft serving these transcontinental markets will offer the flatbed seats over the next 24 months. Delta's decision to install full flat-bed seats on its transcontinental flights complements the airline's current investment in full flat-bed seats on its entire international widebody fleet of more than 140 aircraft. By the end of 2013, 70 percent of all Delta aircraft will have flat beds and, in early 2014, Delta's entire widebody fleet is scheduled to be complete."
That's what I read. The 757-200ERs(ex TWA birds) that we use mainly for Transcons, as well as some Africa & Europe destinations will have lie flat seats installed.
02-26-2013, 09:35 AM
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There are three steps before hiring that haven't happened yet...
1. Lots of cancellations for lack of crews
2. Accuse the pilots of a "sick-out"
3. Blame it on mil leave. As far as I know, only NWA used that last one.
1. Lots of cancellations for lack of crews
2. Accuse the pilots of a "sick-out"
3. Blame it on mil leave. As far as I know, only NWA used that last one.
02-26-2013, 09:35 AM
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Correct. And some 767ERs will be reconfigured in a high density configuration for island destinations out of Japan.
02-26-2013, 09:36 AM
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Only time will tell.
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