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02-22-2013, 02:38 PM

#123581

johnso29

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Originally Posted by newKnow

So, we are going to survive? Outstanding!

Yes, but only if you stay. But be nice to our planes. The one time you were on my CA's jumpseat you intimidated that 767-300ER so much, it pooped a PRSOV.

I still made it home that night, but we were 4 hours late.

02-22-2013, 02:54 PM

#123582

newKnow

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Yes, but only if you stay. But be nice to our planes. The one time you were on my CA's jumpseat you intimidated that 767-300ER so much, it pooped a PRSOV.

I still made it home that night, but we were 4 hours late.

Ha ha. I remember that. You guys were good. Very professional. I'm glad you made your flight. Scheduling made sure I made it to LAX that night. It was good to feel needed.

02-22-2013, 03:09 PM

#123583

georgetg

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Putting B717s into SEA would be us poking Boeing in the eye while saying "HEY, THE BEST NARROW BODY YOU EVER MADE was a DC9!"

Well first we'd all have to request the 16L every time landing south and then make sure to call out the ILS 16L FAF by name

Cheers
George

02-22-2013, 03:12 PM

#123584

dalad

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Originally Posted by johnso29

That's what I was thinking. That has Leo Mullin written all over it.

Yup, we were going to have 737-600's, 700's, and 800's, along with the 75/76 fleet and 777. We had tons on order and option. The plan was also to combine the 767-400 and 777 fleets because there was a clause in the contract to blend the pay rates. Not many guys knew that little tidbit. I was a 727 F/O instructor at the time flying my trips as a 727 A out of NYC. That brings back my memory of my first trip as a Captain in NYC. In a Noreaster. First leg snowing like hell and Andy Rooney on our flight. He stuck his head in the cockpit and said "whatever you do, please don't thank us for being patient".

02-22-2013, 03:31 PM

#123585

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by thomas39

Not sure I follow you about what I already understand from past posts? But lets continue this discussion when the next AE comes out and then we will have known quantities of displacements and vacancies for the initial 717 and 73N. Hopefully vacancies will exceed displacements.

Actually your going to need to wait longer for that discussion. 3 years from now is when we will know the true effects. This contract really started 6 weeks ago. The bid coming will have to in the end have the same number of displacements as entitlements or something close since we are not hiring. It will however have a net gain in CA slots which is the key. There will be displacements on the FO side but a bunch of FO's will see a first time upgrade to CA. The bid to really watch will be next fall/winter when they have to start covering 5 new aircraft a month.

02-22-2013, 03:45 PM

#123586

scambo1

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Originally Posted by iceman49

If the Standard Text is done correctly, you will be doing it the same way 10 years from now and appreciate the simplicity of moving from aircraft to aircraft.

Ice;

I agree with your premise.

I disagree with your conclusion.

Since the merger, we have changed our class 2 waypoint crossing procedure FIVE times.

I've flown a bunch of planes. I've flown into mapshift vegas. I've watched for map shifts in south america. I've diverted for loss of nav capability over the north atlantic. The magenta line has never, ever, ever once lied to me.

Standard text is a great initiative on the one hand. The fourth floor changeout will occur and we will change the way we do everything. I would absolutely love it if we didn't.

02-22-2013, 03:51 PM

#123587

iaflyer

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Good points, I'm expecting to see a lot of 7ER displacements. The crew planning folks have said that the ATL 767 displacements on the FO side won't be covered, so that's 100 spots right there that won't have a place in the 7ER categories. Lets hope there is movement up, but I foresee some NYC 7ER displacements too (as all those guys keep saying they aren't flying).

02-22-2013, 03:51 PM

#123588

Lifeisgood

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Originally Posted by johnso29

.. You also need to keep in mind that 150 military leave pilots have returned since contract ratification.

Close, but surely you meant to write 82

because it is the correct number according to the bid monitor.

02-22-2013, 03:55 PM

#123589

iaflyer

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Originally Posted by scambo1

Standard text is a great initiative on the one hand. The fourth floor changeout will occur and we will change the way we do everything. I would absolutely love it if we didn't.

Exactly. Thing will change again, some academic will publish a paper saying that tailoring procedures for each airplane is better and it's better to learn the airplane specific techniques in the sim rather than on the line. We'll change everything and life goes on.