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Old 02-21-2013, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
What is an "OEF participation medal"? I've included a link to all military medals. Please find the "participation medal" you are talking about and post a reply. I suspect there isn't one.
Sounds like someone's a little defensive about drone pilots being called out for, well, being drone pilots. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

That medal would be the Afghanistan Campaign Medal. Those drones don't land themselves do they? Doesn't a drone pilot have to be LOS with the drone to take it off and land it? So if they're flying their drone over Afghanistan then a drone pilot is getting the medal; or perhaps they're no longer awarding that medal and going with the Global War On Terrorism medal instead, where I think you don't even have to be within 1000 miles of a terrorist to get. I'm not sure, and really don't care. It's not like I thought my post was going to be treated like a sworn statement at a senate hearing. So here it is, full disclosure: I may have taken some liberties with the established criteria for the awarding of medals with which you apparently have great knowledge and expertise with in an attempt to poke fun at drone crews. Whatever they give you in your vfile when you're in between deployments is one more you have to worry about adding the next time you have to wear, god forbid, the fancy uniform.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Wrong, but please keep posting conjecture and fabricating your opinions into fact. If you have questions about what the Combat Readiness Ribbon/Medal is awarded for, I've included an additional link for your reading pleasure.

Combat Readiness Medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well, nice Wikipedia reference. Did you post that information yourself? Here's a news release from an ISR Public Affairs office which would seem to indicate that yes, pred drivers can get a combat readiness medal. Maybe I'm interpreting the PA release incorrectly, if so, excuse me. Again, big whup--it's yet another ribbon for doing one's job, IMO. I think the military (AF in my experience) gives out way too many awards, and this new drone one is just another example; so they're the ones that get the brunt of the criticism at the moment. But maybe some don't like being made fun of in the least bit....talk about a Francis syndrome. Lighten up!

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What's your point? Everyone in the Air Force gets the longevity ribbon. More reading for you. Why don't you do a little more research before sounding like a buffoon, even on an internet forum.

Air Force Longevity Service Award - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Uhh, no $heet. See above.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Wrong again, but it's a good thing the keyboard makes you sound smart. Why don't you go to a Guard/Reserve or Active Duty Pred unit and ask around yourself how much experience some of the guys flying drones have? I'm not going to disclose the Guard/Reserve units that have drones, but to give you a hint, most of them used to be Viper drivers, Francis!

Good day,

GJ
Been there, done that. I know exactly what kind of experience many of them have. BTW, I'd rather have the keyboard make me sound smart than irrationally defensive. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt; perhaps it's one of those situations where it reads one way to me and another way to you.

Seriously, you're too easy!

Chill, bud.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:44 PM
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"Actual 772LR price paid by Delta B772 N701DN"

FTB, out of curiosity...what was the actual price?

Not that I minded the underwater shimmy link
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:45 PM
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My name is 80ktsClamp, and I approve of more super premium widebodies.

I raise my glass to the prospective ships 6317-6328!
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:47 PM
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My name is 80ktsClamp, and I approve of more super premium widebodies.

I raise my glass to the prospective ships 6317-6328!
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles
Wouldn't surprise me if this were true. It also would not surprise me if they're going to use these as a bargaining chip for our next contract coming up. "We will get these 747's if you let DCI have some e-190's or operate those mitsubishi jets that skywest ordered."
No deal. They can keep them if that's the case.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DominAirTrix
"Actual 772LR price paid by Delta B772 N701DN"

FTB, out of curiosity...what was the actual price?

Not that I minded the underwater shimmy link
I don't have one and im sure it was secret, I just wanted to have a Rick Roll link in there.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles
Wouldn't surprise me if this were true. It also would not surprise me if they're going to use these as a bargaining chip for our next contract coming up. "We will get these 747's if you let DCI have some e-190's or operate those mitsubishi jets that skywest ordered."
Aw man, I forgot that's how we do things around here. Talk about a cold cost neutral/leverage what you were going to do anyways shower.


No wait. We're not going to give up anything to get more 747s and you want to know why? They're DTW 747s, DALPA is going to be fenced out and Carl fenced in, no way they give up anything for them.


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Old 02-22-2013, 12:34 AM
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Well, lets do the math real quick. Supposedly we're not merging with anyone. We might acquire 11 744s because 773s are not at our cheap price point (maybe this airline is run by airline pilots after all? ). That's 330 WB pilots eh? And we are talking about either 737s or A320s and either way, we want the OEM to take 50 seaters off our hands.

So what would we be willing to give up to get all that?
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:56 AM
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I like the projected retirement date (assumes age 65?) on the Delta seniority list. If I was hired today, I'd retire #3. Dang, sounds attractive! I'd be happy with a bronze finish
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I don't understand how but the company has told the union they intend to be in compliance per the contract. Combination of summer increases on our side and pull downs of AF KLM flights.
Temporarily or 'permanently'?
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