Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-21-2013, 06:34 PM
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He said it has already been agreed to. Just waiting for Delta to choose the actual airframes they desire in order to minimize the costs of bring them to Delta specs.
The amazing thing is that even if it happens, we'll still have less than half of the jumbo airframes that UAL/CAL has.
Carl
The amazing thing is that even if it happens, we'll still have less than half of the jumbo airframes that UAL/CAL has.
Carl
Carl,
Owning wide-bodies is so yesterday when we can code-share with AF, two separate Virgins, Korean, and whoever else comes along.
Hope your rumor is true. As far as if they are fenced off or not, I personally could give a crap. More heavies mean more guys moving up the food chain no matter who flies them.
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02-21-2013, 06:35 PM
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I would love for Carl's rumor to be true but the values quoted are way off. Older 747-400's are trading for scrape value. There are 52 in storage with no buyers. Last June the average value was 36 million or about 1/6 the price of a 777. Hopefully we are getting the airframes but the price better be a whole lot less then a 777 or we are being taken!
But if you look at the 744 production list and get past the plethora of 400Fs that took up the last few years of production you see some China Airlines, a Skyteam partner. They have 4 mid 2000 744s but no 748s even on order. Could it be we'd take those 4 744s and they order 748s. Take 3 or so from AF from the same time frame. Maybe Virgins?
Add those to maybe a few from the desert? You could scrape up 11 I'm sure.
The question is, who much is a mid to early 2000s 744 worth? $100M? And what if that price tag is for a ready to fly for Delta jet? How much is a retrofit of a 744 cabin to Delta standards cost anyways?
Seems somewhat reasonable if a early model 744 from 1992 or so is in the $20M as is. I could see the price dropping a lot from a 10 year old to 20 year old model that probably is the last 3rd or so of its life.
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02-21-2013, 07:19 PM
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wow those were some good posts. Good rumors, GREAT post by FTB on pricing etc.!
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