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Old 02-13-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Gentlemen, gentlemen,

When Alpha's right, he's right.
Very true. Can't really criticize the guy who does not do anything.
Really Bar? If you're not a union official - you're not doing anything? You can't really mean that.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Those in the service of our pilots, many of whom I might disagree with, still share our goals as Delta pilots. IMHO it is disrespectful and inappropriate to attack them personally.
What about those in the "service" of our pilots who respond to posts this way:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
The revenge of the angry red book guy comes out again. Look at your heroes at USAPA getting run over now by events a new union will not help you in your quest. Just wait until two years from now when the fences come down, you will be able to hear carl scream all the way from Florida.
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I am sorry to say that we have not always given them the same respect they give us (even when we disagree).
Again, read the above post from our esteemed former MEC bureaucrat and highlight the respect shown? And this is just one example. There are numerous other comments of "brick thrower", "keyboard warriors", etc. I'm quite surprised given the above that you can only counsel the non union official against personal attack and petty name calling.

Discussing what these union officials did in an open and straightforward manner is healthy. There should be no attempt to silence that process by portraying it as personal attack. This propensity to automatically give the benefit of the doubt to whomever is in power, is exactly how we got into this position. A position that most recently gave us the Pinnacle agreement without any DALPA involvement whatsoever.

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Well, when they went personal on me, it was wrong. When others go after them, does not make it right.

You know what Ty Webb used to say "two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left."

In fact, for bonus point on APC, if you must insult someone, do it by quoting Ty Webb:

"Your uncle molests collies."
Do long winded masturbatory diatribes with misquoted world leaders at least qualify for some ribbing?
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:06 PM
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Delta Air Lines sues U.S. Export-Import Bank over subsidies - Yahoo! Finance


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL) sued the Export-Import Bank of the United States on Wednesday, renewing a legal fight over subsidies that benefit aircraft exporters such as Boeing Co (BA) and by extension non-U.S. airlines.
The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. Joining Delta as plaintiffs were Hawaiian Airlines Inc and the Air Line Pilots Association, International.

Go get em!!
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Do long winded masturbatory ....
Ty Webb: "I guess you'll just have to keep beating yourself."
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:24 PM
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AMR, US Airways boards OK merger: report
February 13, 2013

The boards of American Airlines parent AMR Corp. and US Airways Group late Wednesday separately voted to approve a merger that would create the world's largest airline, The Wall Street Journal reports.

"The merger will be formally announced early Thursday morning. Under the all-stock deal's terms, American's creditors would own 72% of the combined airline, and US Airways shareholders the balance," the Journal writes.

"Under the all-stock deal's terms, American's creditors would own 72% of the combined airline, and US Airways shareholders the balance. US Airways Chief Executive Doug Parker will run the combined company as chief executive. AMR CEO Tom Horton will serve as nonexecutive board chairman, likely until the spring or summer of 2014, the time of the new company's first annual meeting after American emerges from bankruptcy protection . . . The airline will likely have a market capitalization exceeding $10 billion, and the value could approach $11 billion."
AMR filed for bankruptcy in November 2011, citing high labor costs. A combination with US Airways will create the world's largest airline by passenger traffic and help the two carriers better compete with Chicago-based rival United Continental Holdings Inc., as well as with Delta Air Lines Inc.

As Crain's has previously reported, a US Airways-American merger will help corporate travelers in Chicago, who will get more nonstop flights from O'Hare International Airport.

"Tempe, Ariz.-based US Airways Group Inc. has a small presence at O'Hare, accounting for just 2 percent of the airport's flights from its four gates," Crain's John Pletz noted last year. "But a merger would give American's corporate accounts better access to US Airway's hubs in Philadelphia, Phoenix and Charlotte, N.C. American's passengers would also have an easier time reaching cities in the Southwest and Europe, and the airline's total share of trans-Atlantic flights would rise to 14 percent from less than 10 percent today, according to Airline Forecasts LLC in Washington."
United has 48 percent of O'Hare's passengers, while American has 35 percent.
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Well, when they went personal on me, it was wrong. When others go after them, does not make it right. My religious leader, Ty Webb, used to say "two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left."

In fact, for bonus point on APC, if you must insult someone, do it by quoting Ty Webb:

"Your uncle molests collies."

P.S. Brake check the tailgating cop. Bonus points if he is checking his e-mail or mid way through a sip of coffee.

Bar, if you'd said two wrongs don't make a right, lets be civil and professional from here on out, I'd wholeheartedly agree. But if you go back to last May and June and look at the posts youd see why I don't agree with the previous post.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I get collecting a paycheck without flying is great and all, but that's nothing new on the ER in the winter. NYC 7ER is still mostly commuters right? Seems the SC headache would still be a pain as a commuter.
This really isn't talking to FTB, just a convenient post to quote about people on reserve not flying.

Not all 7ER guys are sitting around growing beards. I start another trip tomorrow, so at the end of that trip, I would of flown on 21 of my last 26 reserve days. (yes, it splits Jan/Feb so I'm not talking about YS or anything) - just flying when they call me to.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
"Your uncle molests collies."


Great cars....
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Do long winded masturbatory diatribes with misquoted world leaders at least qualify for some ribbing?
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:53 PM
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Anyone think that the American / US Airways merger would prompt Delta to merge with Alaska?
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