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02-13-2013, 06:07 AM
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02-13-2013, 06:09 AM
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The 737 is referenced as being built up for coming deliveries, meaning more pilots than currently needed. They're over 7 crews too.
They specifically mentioned the 717 needs 7 crews, but that's for the build up of training as they're limited there too for how many crews they can train in a month. If 5 crews is overstaffed on the proverbial backbone of the fleet, I seriously doubt 7 crews will last on the 717 either.
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Now let me make something clear, I'm not saying any of the staffing levels are nefarious. They're what we allow. I just think the notion that we're paid less in W2s than SWA pilots because they have this uber-high utilization may not be the case at all when you look at similar domestic only aircraft. You read that welcome packet and you see how their credit pay builds up fast. Every SWA pilot I talk to seems to be in the mid 70s to low 80s in flight hours per month but not in pay. But people can call me disingenuous but I'm just trying to figure out the truth via an excel spreadsheet and posted data.
02-13-2013, 06:18 AM
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I don't have my contract with me. Does anyone know what the minimum rest period they have to give you after you finish a short call period? If SC period ends at 11PM tonight what is the earliest they can call me tomorrow morning? Thanks
02-13-2013, 06:19 AM
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They mention the 9 is overstaffed at slightly more than 7 crews and the 88/90 is overstaffed at slightly less than 5 crews in the March newsletter.
The 737 is referenced as being built up for coming deliveries, meaning more pilots than currently needed. They're over 7 crews too.
They specifically mentioned the 717 needs 7 crews, but that's for the build up of training as they're limited there too for how many crews they can train in a month. If 5 crews is overstaffed on the proverbial backbone of the fleet, I seriously doubt 7 crews will last on the 717 either.
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Now let me make something clear, I'm not saying any of the staffing levels are nefarious. They're what we allow. I just think the notion that we're paid less in W2s than SWA pilots because they have this uber-high utilization may not be the case at all when you look at similar domestic only aircraft. You read that welcome packet and you see how their credit pay builds up fast. Every SWA pilot I talk to seems to be in the mid 70s to low 80s in flight hours per month but not in pay. But people can call me disingenuous but I'm just trying to figure out the truth via an excel spreadsheet and posted data.
The 737 is referenced as being built up for coming deliveries, meaning more pilots than currently needed. They're over 7 crews too.
They specifically mentioned the 717 needs 7 crews, but that's for the build up of training as they're limited there too for how many crews they can train in a month. If 5 crews is overstaffed on the proverbial backbone of the fleet, I seriously doubt 7 crews will last on the 717 either.
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Now let me make something clear, I'm not saying any of the staffing levels are nefarious. They're what we allow. I just think the notion that we're paid less in W2s than SWA pilots because they have this uber-high utilization may not be the case at all when you look at similar domestic only aircraft. You read that welcome packet and you see how their credit pay builds up fast. Every SWA pilot I talk to seems to be in the mid 70s to low 80s in flight hours per month but not in pay. But people can call me disingenuous but I'm just trying to figure out the truth via an excel spreadsheet and posted data.
I think it comes down to aircraft utilization. Yes, the DC9 was intentionally overstaffed. But the 737 was not. The 320 has FOs being displaced due to lower utilization. The 717 will be used more then the DC9. The M88 utilization will increase in the summer. I doubt they'll be many displacements off the M88.
02-13-2013, 06:21 AM
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02-13-2013, 06:37 AM
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36.8% in taxes taken from my profit sharing........Holy Cow! Is that mandated by the government?
02-13-2013, 06:45 AM
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02-13-2013, 06:49 AM
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So using their data from the AirTran welcome packet:
- SWA: 3,937 hours x 549 jets / 2906 line crews = 744 hours per pilot per year.
- DAL: 3,428 hours x 182 MD88/MD90s** / 868 line pilots = 719 hours per pilot per year.
So a little less... unless you take into account they are talking about reducing the staffing. Say, a 3.3% reduction or 57.2 pilots system wide? Then we equal SWA.
02-13-2013, 06:50 AM
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You revert to long call status at 23:00:00. They can technically call you any time. If you aren't on SC, or X days, you're on Long Call. That means the earliest report they could give you is 11:00:00. If they pop you for something during the SC shift, however, you can be released from SC and given a rotation beginning in as little as 8:00:00.
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