Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-10-2013, 02:13 PM
Da Hudge
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02-10-2013, 02:14 PM
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Depends on where you live. I honestly don't understand how FOs live in SoCal or NY, for example, without WS'ing their butts off. Probably much different in the Midwest.
By way of full disclosure, I do white slip when I need to. I have a military pension, though, which helps tremendously. I have never ever received a green slip in 5 years in LA. Thus, my angst.
By way of full disclosure, I do white slip when I need to. I have a military pension, though, which helps tremendously. I have never ever received a green slip in 5 years in LA. Thus, my angst.
02-10-2013, 02:17 PM
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I don't agree. I think guys work as much as they have to, not just to work. If we were compensated like we used to be, there'd be very few guys white slipping. Still a fair amount of green slippers probably. I don't want to work if I don't have to.
02-10-2013, 02:17 PM
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02-10-2013, 02:20 PM
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Even the JBLU pilots get 1.5 over 78. In NYC there are about 5 pilots that get the majority of green slips, one who actually sits in the lounge on his days off! 1.5 over 80 would be more fair, with greenslips for company scheduling emergencies. IE get paid double when they really need you, irregardless of how many hours you have flown.
02-10-2013, 02:23 PM
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Depends on where you live. I honestly don't understand how FOs live in SoCal or NY, for example, without WS'ing their butts off. Probably much different in the Midwest.
By way of full disclosure, I do white slip when I need to. I have a military pension, though, which helps tremendously. I have never ever received a green slip in 5 years in LA. Thus, my angst.
By way of full disclosure, I do white slip when I need to. I have a military pension, though, which helps tremendously. I have never ever received a green slip in 5 years in LA. Thus, my angst.
02-10-2013, 02:24 PM
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Replace 85 with 75 and I might be interested. 85 is way too high.
02-10-2013, 02:27 PM
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This is exactly where management wants us. Deleverage and then shrink the pilot group to a point where everyone is fighting over more hours; one of many examples how management manipulates and gets the staffing required moving in the opposite direction even on the cusp of "massive retirements." If everyone just flew 5-10% more, ALV +15 for reserves, add a seventh shortcall, shrink the number of pilots in each category, consider the age of our domestic fleet and no widebody orders and the fact we are overstaffed you have the "plan." So 2.5 years ago during weaker yields we had to hire, now we are 4+ years away from any kind of movement, that assumes we stay the same size (trends point other direction).
The common problem I see here is Section 1, scope.
The common problem I see here is Section 1, scope.
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02-10-2013, 02:28 PM
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Easy, my old house in the midwest was sold for 325,000 and my property taxes were 9500 per year. You pay one way or the other.
02-10-2013, 02:32 PM
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