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Old 02-08-2013, 04:14 AM
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I've been at Delta for only two years now and Im in the right seat of the 757/767. Why would I leave this place? I've been sitting on my couch since Jan 1st and there is no flying for me in sight. I love this company!!
Out of seniority!!

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:19 AM
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Don't forget that when you say a July 2005 hire is Captain on the 756 at UCAL that includes being Captain on the 767-400 as well as 752, 753, 762 and soon 763.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:41 AM
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Don't forget that when you say a July 2005 hire is Captain on the 756 at UCAL that includes being Captain on the 767-400 as well as 752, 753, 762 and soon 763.

As a 1998 hire I'm senior enough to barely hold RIGHT seat of the 767-400 in NYC, can't hold the right seat in ATL.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:48 AM
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As a 1998 hire I'm senior enough to barely hold RIGHT seat of the 767-400 in NYC, can't hold the right seat in ATL.
Hmmm, 15 years > 10 years so therefore you've passed the threshold on being able to hold a widebody and it's not considered out of seniority.

And the reason btw I keep saying this is because I keep hearing it, "if it took me ten years to hold ER... anyone that holds it in less is doing so out of seniority." Heard it 3 times in the last year.

Now, had you gone to FedEx in 1996 or maybe 1997, you'd be a LCA on the MD11. If I'm not mistaken.
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And the reason btw I keep saying this is because I keep hearing it, "if it took me ten years to hold ER... anyone that holds it in less is doing so out of seniority." Heard it 3 times in the last year.
Anyone sat reserve for more than 6 years in their airline career by force?
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Originally Posted by cni187
I've been at Delta for only two years now and Im in the right seat of the 757/767. Why would I leave this place? I've been sitting on my couch since Jan 1st and there is no flying for me in sight. I love this company!!
Obviously NYC based but where is home? Just curious.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:26 AM
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Question, hard non-fly days are golden days and the like, not just an X day, right?

So a reserve pilot on LC or SC prior to a hard day off is released at 1200. But if you're not going into a hard non-fly day then you're on until the day is over on the SC period is over, right?
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Do we still get reimbursed for our passports? I seem to remember some talk on here that it went away. Do we just submit an expense in icrew for it?
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At least someone's planning on growth, too bad it's a JV partner!!!
Virgin Atlantic on Offensive as Delta Deal Ends Wilderness Years - Bloomberg
Have we applied for JV with KE?
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DL service to ICN from NRT ends May 31. Evidently Northwest started Tokyo to Seoul in 1947.
And then there's this:

What entrepreneurs starting family businesses can learn from the demise of Japanese temple builder Kongo Gumi
The world's oldest continuously operating family business ended its impressive run last year. Japanese temple builder Kongo Gumi, in operation under the founders' descendants since 578, succumbed to excess debt and an unfavorable business climate in 2006.
How do you make a family business last for 14 centuries? Kongo Gumi's case suggests that it's a good idea to operate in a stable industry. Few industries could be less flighty than Buddhist temple construction. The belief system has survived for thousands of years and has many millions of adherents. With this firm foundation, Kongo had survived some tumultuous times, notably the 19th century Meiji restoration when it lost government subsidies and began building commercial buildings for the first time. But temple construction had until recently been a reliable mainstay, contributing 80% of Kongo Gumi's $67.6 million in 2004 revenues.
Keys to Success
Kongo Gumi also boasted some internal positives that enabled it to survive for centuries. Its last president, Masakazu Kongo, was the 40th member of the family to lead the company. He has cited the company's flexibility in selecting leaders as a key factor in its longevity. Specifically, rather than always handing reins to the oldest son, Kongo Gumi chose the son who best exhibited the health, responsibility, and talent for the job. Furthermore, it wasn't always a son. The 38th Kongo to lead the company was Masakazu's grandmother.
Another factor that contributed to Kongo Gumi's extended existence was the practice of sons-in-law taking the family name when they joined the family firm. This common Japanese practice allowed the company to continue under the same name, even when there were no sons in a given generation.
So if you want your family business to last a long time, the story of Kongo Gumi says you should mingle elements of conservatism and flexibility—stay in the same business for more than a millennium and vary from the principle of primogeniture as needed to preserve the company. The combination allowed Kongo Gumi to survive some notable hard times, such as when it switched temporarily to crafting coffins during World War II.
Burst Bubble
The circumstances of Kongo Gumi's demise also offer some lessons. Despite its incredible history, it was a set of ordinary circumstances that brought Kongo Gumi down at last. Two factors were primarily responsible. First, during the 1980s bubble economy in Japan, the company borrowed heavily to invest in real estate. After the bubble burst in the 1992-93 recession, the assets secured by Kongo Gumi's debt shrank in value. Second, social changes in Japan brought about declining contributions to temples. As a result, demand for Kongo Gumi's temple-building services dropped sharply beginning in 1998.
By 2004, revenues were down 35%. Masakazu Kongo laid off employees and tightened budgets. But in 2006, the end arrived. The company's borrowings had ballooned to $343 million and it was no longer possible to service the debt. In January, the company's assets were acquired by Takamatsu, a large Japanese construction company, and it was absorbed into a subsidiary.
To sum up the lessons of Kongo Gumi's long tenure and ultimate failure: Pick a stable industry and create flexible succession policies. To avoid a similar demise, evolve as business conditions require, but don't get carried away with temporary enthusiasms and sacrifice financial stability for what looks like an opportunity. These lessons are somewhat contradictory and paradoxical, to be sure. But if sustained success came easy, then all family businesses would have a 1,428-year run.


1947 was yesterday, and if we aren't making money......
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