Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-06-2013, 02:38 PM
  #121991  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 758
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane
According to the Crew Planning news, there are 13 MD-90s that will enter service between now and the end of the year. If they are staffed with 7 crews per airplane (like they said the 717 will be) then that will be 91 captains more. Still a loss but a little less so........Plus, 15 717's delivered in 2013 at 7 crews an airplane is 105 captains.

Denny
This was answered on the question section of the update. The plane is overstaffed and no new openings expected.
DLpilot is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 02:40 PM
  #121992  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 758
Default

Originally Posted by newKnow
Are you sure they are closing the DC-9 out on the next AE? I know it's a 365 day bid and all, but I don't see anywhere in the memo where they are saying they are shutting down the DTW and ATL DC9 bases.

Compare what they say about the 767 and the DC-9. "We will be closing the ATL 767 categories on the next AE...." vs. "We could see a large number of DC9 pilots bid off on the next AE...."

I just note that I didn't see them talking about MD's for anyone off the DC9, that's all.
Read under "Bidding Options When A Category Closes". It is about halfway through the update.
DLpilot is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 02:43 PM
  #121993  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by DLpilot
Read under "Bidding Options When A Category Closes". It is about halfway through the update.
Just saw it. Thanks DL.
newKnow is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 02:47 PM
  #121994  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Denny Crane's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Default

Originally Posted by DLpilot
This was answered on the question section of the update. The plane is overstaffed and no new openings expected.
It's overstaffed now but I think crew planning is expecting quite a few guys to bid off to the 717, just like they expect bidding off the DC9. They also say that 6 of the MD90's wont be put in service until Nov and Dec 2013. Those can be put up for bid later.......

Denny
Denny Crane is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 02:52 PM
  #121995  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane
It's overstaffed now but I think crew planning is expecting quite a few guys to bid off to the 717, just like they expect bidding off the DC9. They also say that 6 of the MD90's wont be put in service until Nov and Dec 2013. Those can be put up for bid later.......

Denny
I'm a little confused -- again. If they are closing the base, why would DC9 guys/gals bid off, when they can get a mandatory displacement and go where they go with no freeze? Or, is there no real difference in the way they are using the terms bid and displace?
newKnow is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 03:00 PM
  #121996  
Gets Weekends Off
 
nwaf16dude's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 737A
Posts: 1,890
Default

Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
Old age and deceit will overcome youth and ambition.
Truth is I'm almost 50, so I have no room to throw stones
nwaf16dude is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 03:12 PM
  #121997  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Denny Crane's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Default

Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm a little confused -- again. If they are closing the base, why would DC9 guys/gals bid off, when they can get a mandatory displacement and go where they go with no freeze? Or, is there no real difference in the way they are using the terms bid and displace?
All things being equal, you are right. If your category is closing, just bid an MD. You have the best chance of getting what you want. The question is...........how much longer do the -9 guys want to be on the -9? Also, it sounds like guys are going to be sitting around for months not doing anything but waiting for 717 delivieries to come so they can get an OE. That right there is some incentive to bid it on an AE!! (MD's are trained in inverse order.) Of course they would have a freeze. You are correct, MD equals no freeze and AE equals freeze.

Denny
Denny Crane is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 03:18 PM
  #121998  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 758
Default

[QUOTE=Denny Crane;1347273]All things being equal, you are right. If your category is closing, just bid an MD. You have the best chance of getting what you want. The question is...........how much longer do the -9 guys want to be on the -9? Also, it sounds like guys are going to be sitting around for months not doing anything but waiting for 717 delivieries to come so they can get an OE. That right there is some incentive to bid it on an AE!! (MD's are trained in inverse order.) Of course they would have a freeze. You are correct, MD equals no freeze and AE equals freeze.

Denny[/]

Nevermind

Last edited by DLpilot; 02-06-2013 at 03:32 PM.
DLpilot is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 03:36 PM
  #121999  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane
All things being equal, you are right. If your category is closing, just bid an MD. You have the best chance of getting what you want. The question is...........how much longer do the -9 guys want to be on the -9? Also, it sounds like guys are going to be sitting around for months not doing anything but waiting for 717 delivieries to come so they can get an OE. That right there is some incentive to bid it on an AE!! (MD's are trained in inverse order.) Of course they would have a freeze. You are correct, MD equals no freeze and AE equals freeze.

Denny
Thanks Denny! Hope things are going well with you.
newKnow is offline  
Old 02-06-2013, 03:45 PM
  #122000  
veut gagner à la loterie
 
forgot to bid's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane
According to the Crew Planning news, there are 13 MD-90s that will enter service between now and the end of the year. If they are staffed with 7 crews per airplane (like they said the 717 will be) then that will be 91 captains more. Still a loss but a little less so........Plus, 15 717's delivered in 2013 at 7 crews an airplane is 105 captains.

Denny
117 MD-88s + 65 MD-90s? Equals 182 jets right?

There are 1735 pilots right now on the 88/90 and they're not expecting to add more but shrink staffing on it.

That's 9.5 pilots per plane, not crews, pilots. 4.8 crews per plane. It's below the 15 pilots per 737, 11 per 320, 14 for the 9.

Why do they say we are overstaffed? I mean February, yes, but come summer?
forgot to bid is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices