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Old 02-01-2013, 09:08 AM
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Just in case it's a real question ... are we falling behind or did AMR realize that UCAL is a force to be reckoned with?


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Looking at the numbers I think it's clear. We're falling behind. BUT, what race are we running? If the race is to grow larger, then I'm not jumping for joy. Especially when you consider the 787 unlikely to happen.

If the race is to grow margins, I bet we're doing great... which means I probably won't jump for joy.

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Old 02-01-2013, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
One thing Ive noticed on fifi... she sure likes flying fast. The faster you go, the more fuel you land with!
The 727 was the same way. Push the power up a smidge, cruise at 82 or 83, and you'd be consistently 1.5-2.0k fat at your destination.

Of course, you were deaf when you got there.

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Old 02-01-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Falling behind, we've been behind and will continue to be behind as we seem to find other airlines to fly our heavy metal routes for us!!

Yeahbut...we're kicking AA's arse in JV's and Code Shares!

And pretty soon we'll own every MD90 ever made!

And every 717 ever made!

So we got that going for us.

Who needs more wide bodies anyway?

Everyone knows there's no money in International flying, might as well buy another carrier like VA.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo

Yeahbut...we're kicking AA's arse in JV's and Code Shares!

And pretty soon we'll own every MD90 ever made!

And every 717 ever made!

So we got that going for us.

Who needs more wide bodies anyway?

Everyone knows there's no money in International flying, might as well buy another carrier like VA.
Note that the 717 is now a fleet type on DLNet...
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Sayyyy.. wait a minute.. I was based in BOS.....However, they don't make 'em like Jimmy B. any more, covered a multitude of sins. He sure had a full deck up there.
Remember a guy named Stafford?

Yeah, he was a real card, and needed to be dealt with!
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Note that the 717 is now a fleet type on DLNet...
And yet the DC-9 is not included in "aircraft we fly" in the Delta Sky magazine.
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Dow crosses 14,000. Many predict a further 35% increase in the next 3 years. The trend is your friend.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Looking at the numbers I think it's clear. We're falling behind. BUT, what race are we running? If the race is to grow larger, then I'm not jumping for joy. Especially when you consider the 787 unlikely to happen.

If the race is to grow margins, I bet we're doing great... which means I probably won't jump for joy.

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If there is a race for who has the most 777/747's, we aren't in it. It looks like:

United has 98.

American has 49 (with 17 more on order.).

Delta has 34.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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Dow crosses 14,000. Many predict a further 35% increase in the next 3 years. The trend is your friend.
It also crossed 14,000 in 2007. And was trending upwards very well with predictions of even more than 35% in the next 3 years.

In 2009, it was below 7,000.

This country, and the whole world, has a whole pile of financial problems that aren't being fixed. The problem is just being kicked down the road. As an active investor, the fact that the Dow hit 14,000 today (and its stellar performance lately) makes me very very nervous, not excited. The trend doesn't have a lot to support it and is very misleading.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The 727 was the same way. Push the power up a smidge, cruise at 82 or 83, and you'd be consistently 1.5-2.0k fat at your destination.

Of course, you were deaf when you got there.

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