Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-30-2013, 02:18 PM
Can't abide NAI
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I don't think it is a couple of individuals' right to decide for the rest of ALPA's membership how much to sell unity for.
01-30-2013, 02:21 PM
Can't abide NAI
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01-30-2013, 02:23 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
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In rough math, we taxpayers are paying $3,750 for each of Korean's passengers to enjoy the A380 service which competes with our own product. Of course, if the airport (aka City of Atlanta) is spending $30 million how much is the Fed kicking in?
The question Atlanta politicians should have asked is, "does Atlanta's home town airline operate the A380?"
The question Atlanta politicians should have asked is, "does Atlanta's home town airline operate the A380?"
The key to getting stuff done in the A T L.... $$$$$$$ plus whatever it costs you to operate.
01-30-2013, 02:33 PM
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Hi
Their response was of interest and helping me find the answers and I was impressed. I think BC was happy with my question and really helped me find an answer by using his phone to contact HK. My worry about the formula was the fact that it looks good and helps with staffing but its just step one of a two step solution. If the staffing formula calls for the fact they need more people then what do you do? That was my honest question to the both of them because it seems good on the surface but without a trigger or enforcement mechanism its hard to see how it helps us outside of pointing out a problem.
Another point I raised to HK was: OK so the staffing formula calls for more people (he agrees and the company puts out a bid). That does not solve the problem because that is not an immediate solution. If we get into an understaffed situation ie the M88. Lets say in May 2013 the one year look back says yes our TLV was too high we need more people. OK the company puts out a bid in May2013 that does not correct the problem. So now the M88 drivers are stuck again with a crappy summer of lots of flying and the relief comes in SEPT with more people and more lines.
My beef with the staffing formula all along has been its a good idea on paper but it falls short of accomplishing what it was designed to do.
I will admit I do not know what can be done outside of tying enforcment mechanisms to it. IE if the TLV is exceeded all bases with higher TLV are paid 5 hours above ALV something like that. This is a direction I would like to see our MEC/LEC pursue in the future penalties within the contract for lack of compliance so their becomes a cost to any noncompliance.
Thanks
Their response was of interest and helping me find the answers and I was impressed. I think BC was happy with my question and really helped me find an answer by using his phone to contact HK. My worry about the formula was the fact that it looks good and helps with staffing but its just step one of a two step solution. If the staffing formula calls for the fact they need more people then what do you do? That was my honest question to the both of them because it seems good on the surface but without a trigger or enforcement mechanism its hard to see how it helps us outside of pointing out a problem.
Another point I raised to HK was: OK so the staffing formula calls for more people (he agrees and the company puts out a bid). That does not solve the problem because that is not an immediate solution. If we get into an understaffed situation ie the M88. Lets say in May 2013 the one year look back says yes our TLV was too high we need more people. OK the company puts out a bid in May2013 that does not correct the problem. So now the M88 drivers are stuck again with a crappy summer of lots of flying and the relief comes in SEPT with more people and more lines.
My beef with the staffing formula all along has been its a good idea on paper but it falls short of accomplishing what it was designed to do.
I will admit I do not know what can be done outside of tying enforcment mechanisms to it. IE if the TLV is exceeded all bases with higher TLV are paid 5 hours above ALV something like that. This is a direction I would like to see our MEC/LEC pursue in the future penalties within the contract for lack of compliance so their becomes a cost to any noncompliance.
Thanks
01-30-2013, 03:05 PM
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01-30-2013, 03:23 PM
Sho me da money!
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01-30-2013, 04:08 PM
Runs with scissors
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Turn on what ever chanel your local cable has CNBC on, right now, there is a great show about why the 787 is so AFU. (8pm east coast)
01-30-2013, 04:23 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
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01-30-2013, 04:25 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
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01-30-2013, 04:30 PM
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Roger Dodger, you won't want to miss it, it's eye opeining! 
The good news is, Boeing is working on replacing...PILOTS!
At least the Boeing guy was honest when asked, "Is the 787 a black eye for Boeing?"
"Yes, it's a setback" (re. 3 years overdue)
And this was filmed -before- the battery issues started!
And the KC767 'procurement' issue is being discussed.
Wow. Just fking wow.
Such a great company, so sleezy.
The good news is, Boeing is working on replacing...PILOTS!
At least the Boeing guy was honest when asked, "Is the 787 a black eye for Boeing?"
"Yes, it's a setback" (re. 3 years overdue)
And this was filmed -before- the battery issues started!
And the KC767 'procurement' issue is being discussed.
Wow. Just fking wow.
Such a great company, so sleezy.
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