Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-30-2013, 12:16 PM
Sho me da money!
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GO 9ers!!
01-30-2013, 12:56 PM
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And what were the responses of the reps you spoke to? Did they just shrug their shoulders and claim there was nothing that could be done? Has the company been violating the staffing formula for years now? Serious questions.
WRT JV compliance, we have yet to reach the end of the correction window.
WRT JV compliance, we have yet to reach the end of the correction window.
Hi
Their response was of interest and helping me find the answers and I was impressed. I think BC was happy with my question and really helped me find an answer by using his phone to contact HK. My worry about the formula was the fact that it looks good and helps with staffing but its just step one of a two step solution. If the staffing formula calls for the fact they need more people then what do you do? That was my honest question to the both of them because it seems good on the surface but without a trigger or enforcement mechanism its hard to see how it helps us outside of pointing out a problem.
Another point I raised to HK was: OK so the staffing formula calls for more people (he agrees and the company puts out a bid). That does not solve the problem because that is not an immediate solution. If we get into an understaffed situation ie the M88. Lets say in May 2013 the one year look back says yes our TLV was too high we need more people. OK the company puts out a bid in May2013 that does not correct the problem. So now the M88 drivers are stuck again with a crappy summer of lots of flying and the relief comes in SEPT with more people and more lines.
My beef with the staffing formula all along has been its a good idea on paper but it falls short of accomplishing what it was designed to do.
I will admit I do not know what can be done outside of tying enforcment mechanisms to it. IE if the TLV is exceeded all bases with higher TLV are paid 5 hours above ALV something like that. This is a direction I would like to see our MEC/LEC pursue in the future penalties within the contract for lack of compliance so their becomes a cost to any nonclmpliance
Thanks
01-30-2013, 01:12 PM
The Brown Dot +1
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Remember though, CRJ-900 A > DC-9 B.
Says so in our contract.
B. Order of Positions
1. B-747-400 (International) Captain
2. B-777 (International) Captain
3. B-787 (International) Captain
4. B-767-400ER (International) Captain
5. A-330-200/300 (International) Captain
6. B-767/B-757 (International) Captain
7. B-767/B-757 Captain
8. B-737-900/800/700/600 Captain
9. A-320/319 Captain
10. MD-90/MD-88 Captain
11. B-717 Captain
12. DC-9 Captain
13. B-747-400 (International) First Officer
14. B-777 (International) First Officer
15. B-787 (International) First Officer
16. B-767-400ER (International) First Officer
17. A-330-200/300 (International) First Officer
18. B-767/B-757 (International) First Officer
19. B-767/B-757 First Officer
20. E-190/195 Captain
21. B-737-900/800/700/600 First Officer
22. A-320/319 First Officer
23. MD-90/MD-88 First Officer
24. B-717 First Officer
25. CRJ-900 Captain
26. DC-9 First Officer
27. E-190/195 First Officer
28. CRJ-900 First Officer
That'd make a pretty good song Scambo...
Says so in our contract.
B. Order of Positions
1. B-747-400 (International) Captain
2. B-777 (International) Captain
3. B-787 (International) Captain
4. B-767-400ER (International) Captain
5. A-330-200/300 (International) Captain
6. B-767/B-757 (International) Captain
7. B-767/B-757 Captain
8. B-737-900/800/700/600 Captain
9. A-320/319 Captain
10. MD-90/MD-88 Captain
11. B-717 Captain
12. DC-9 Captain
13. B-747-400 (International) First Officer
14. B-777 (International) First Officer
15. B-787 (International) First Officer
16. B-767-400ER (International) First Officer
17. A-330-200/300 (International) First Officer
18. B-767/B-757 (International) First Officer
19. B-767/B-757 First Officer
20. E-190/195 Captain
21. B-737-900/800/700/600 First Officer
22. A-320/319 First Officer
23. MD-90/MD-88 First Officer
24. B-717 First Officer
25. CRJ-900 Captain
26. DC-9 First Officer
27. E-190/195 First Officer
28. CRJ-900 First Officer
That'd make a pretty good song Scambo...
That song is this:
PAPER PLANES video - Jerry Joseph & Wally Ingram - (M.I.A. COVER) - YouTube
01-30-2013, 01:18 PM
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For me, the most fun I had at the airline was the ER, flying europe. Each september, 4 different octoberfest cities in one month, biking all over AMS, getting Brit cankled, snaggletoothed chicks hammered on 151 and coke just to see if you still got it, Prague anytime but the winter and greenslips when you wanted them. Then they domesticated the -er.
01-30-2013, 01:23 PM
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01-30-2013, 01:34 PM
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Did he stab that deer before he snorted the antler powder?
01-30-2013, 02:00 PM
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Essentially, it was a list for each category of the people bidding it, in seniority order, along with WHERE it fell in their preferences.
Thus if you had 5 guys bidding 717 B in front of you, you could see if that was their top preference, or the 20th.
It was good data to have.
Nu
01-30-2013, 02:11 PM
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FWIW, we had what was called the "pref-up" list at NWA.
Essentially, it was a list for each category of the people bidding it, in seniority order, along with WHERE it fell in their preferences.
Thus if you had 5 guys bidding 717 B in front of you, you could see if that was their top preference, or the 20th.
It was good data to have.
Nu
Essentially, it was a list for each category of the people bidding it, in seniority order, along with WHERE it fell in their preferences.
Thus if you had 5 guys bidding 717 B in front of you, you could see if that was their top preference, or the 20th.
It was good data to have.
Nu
01-30-2013, 02:15 PM
Can't abide NAI
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Speaking of the latest and greatest in technology around these parts...
After a delay in its plans, Korean Air now says it will fly its A380 super jumbo jet to Atlanta starting in August.
The carrier had previously planned to start flying the 407-seat Airbus A380 early this month on its Atlanta-Seoul route. But last year those plans got delayed after European air safety regulators ordered inspections of all A380s for tiny cracks in a wing part.
Hartsfield-Jackson general manager Louis Miller has said the A380 would “enhance Atlanta’s reputation as a world-class city and gateway to the United States.” The airport is spending about $30 million on improvements to prepare for the A380, including gate modifications to serve the double-decker jet on Concourse E and widening of taxiways and runways.
Korean Air, a partner of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines, first launched flights to Atlanta in December 1994.
After a delay in its plans, Korean Air now says it will fly its A380 super jumbo jet to Atlanta starting in August.
The carrier had previously planned to start flying the 407-seat Airbus A380 early this month on its Atlanta-Seoul route. But last year those plans got delayed after European air safety regulators ordered inspections of all A380s for tiny cracks in a wing part.
Hartsfield-Jackson general manager Louis Miller has said the A380 would “enhance Atlanta’s reputation as a world-class city and gateway to the United States.” The airport is spending about $30 million on improvements to prepare for the A380, including gate modifications to serve the double-decker jet on Concourse E and widening of taxiways and runways.
Korean Air, a partner of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines, first launched flights to Atlanta in December 1994.
The question Atlanta politicians should have asked is, "does Atlanta's home town airline operate the A380?"
01-30-2013, 02:17 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
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Chances we are still using icrew with 1993 clip art in 2023?
A) High
B) all of the above
A) High
B) all of the above
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