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Old 01-30-2013, 02:01 AM
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Probably jinxing this, but gotta ask: When you see a rotation you're scheduled for is now going to be an OE for another FO, what should you look for that tells you those days are available for you to white slip? Does the trip eventually disappear from your schedule when you get close enough to the date it's scheduled for?
Actually.... the Scheduler will call you the pm before the rotation (no call from LCA). This means all of the next day flying has already been assigned, so there is usually nothing visible to pick up. You can ws/gs, but..... only up to the max for the month. (try to use the swap board instead) The trip does not disappear, it will still be visible on your line. The gotcha is... that trip counts against your monthly hours. In Dec I got one of these and thought I was on my way to a 110 month.... false. I already had 89 hrs and couldn't pick up any WS. I did find a crappy non commutable, 2day and ended up with 100. It is still a good deal, but not the lotto ticket I thought it was.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The LCA will call you and release you from the trip the day prior. Only then can you white slip/green slip.
80kts clamp. I have had this a few times in the last year and never has the LCA called to release me. The schedulers control this and they called me around 6 pm eastern. I asked why they waited and was told that the evening shift has to call in case a issue arises with the person receiving OE or consolidation, etc. it made sense to me, I figure the person replacing you may have gotten sick or not been able to make the trip. I also asked if there was anyway to find out prior to 6pm eastern because of people who commute in the night before for a early show... No luck, they held firm.

Now I will also say I am on the DC-9 and the LCA are primarily former NWA guys/gals and perhaps there is a difference with LCA calling to the scheduled FO? My experience this year and its happened three times (lucky me) no call from the LCA.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:21 AM
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Newk surfing?



Is it just me or does this weather system moving across the south kind of have a similar construction to the one that had all of the tornadoes in 2011? I was flying that day in and out of ATL and man, the winds were 180 at 34 knots all day. I mean 30 knots.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Probably jinxing this, but gotta ask: When you see a rotation you're scheduled for is now going to be an OE for another FO, what should you look for that tells you those days are available for you to white slip? Does the trip eventually disappear from your schedule when you get close enough to the date it's scheduled for?
Just enjoy the paid time off.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:51 AM
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Is it just me or does this weather system moving across the south kind of have a similar construction to the one that had all of the tornadoes in 2011? I was flying that day in and out of ATL and man, the winds were 180 at 34 knots all day. I mean 30 knots.
Tornado warning in College Park right now.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:51 AM
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Just enjoy the paid time off.
I second this...
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
Not to worry, in 24 months when the excess bodies have been drained from the system, all reserves (jr and sr) will be flying their tails off. Before someone comes on here and says I just have a bad attitude my response is, wait and see. The manning with new work rules and computer formula tweaking will take effect. Its a matter of time.

I hope I am wrong and Sailing will say I am but lets get feedback from the average reserve and line pilot in 24 months. It's one thing to hear a dozen reasons why you SHOULD be increasing your quality of life and quite another when you are actually living the new reality.
Exactly. Sometimes reserve is a good deal for the senior guys, and sometimes senior guys don't bid reserve. That's where its headed, enjoy it while it lasts.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Vikz09
80kts clamp. I have had this a few times in the last year and never has the LCA called to release me. The schedulers control this and they called me around 6 pm eastern. I asked why they waited and was told that the evening shift has to call in case a issue arises with the person receiving OE or consolidation, etc. it made sense to me, I figure the person replacing you may have gotten sick or not been able to make the trip. I also asked if there was anyway to find out prior to 6pm eastern because of people who commute in the night before for a early show... No luck, they held firm.

Now I will also say I am on the DC-9 and the LCA are primarily former NWA guys/gals and perhaps there is a difference with LCA calling to the scheduled FO? My experience this year and its happened three times (lucky me) no call from the LCA.
This is exactely right! I've questioned the call at 1900 for a 0625 report before and got the exact same reply. Scheduling does this not the LCA, maybe in the past (>4-5 years ago).
As someone else mentioned, the pairing remains on your schedule and counts towrds your max p/u for the month so go to the swap board to go above the max p/u if you so desire...plus it would make someone's day for you to p/u the trip they are trying to drop!
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by whitt767
Actually.... the Scheduler will call you the pm before the rotation (no call from LCA). This means all of the next day flying has already been assigned, so there is usually nothing visible to pick up. You can ws/gs, but..... only up to the max for the month. (try to use the swap board instead) The trip does not disappear, it will still be visible on your line. The gotcha is... that trip counts against your monthly hours. In Dec I got one of these and thought I was on my way to a 110 month.... false. I already had 89 hrs and couldn't pick up any WS. I did find a crappy non commutable, 2day and ended up with 100. It is still a good deal, but not the lotto ticket I thought it was.
Thanks for the info. As a commuter I see this working out to paid time off (if it holds up), which is solid advice.

Hard to know what's out there anyway when iCrew keeps kicking me off. Thought it was just me, but I'm hearing others are having the same problem today and yesterday.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:13 AM
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winds were 180 at 34 knots all day. I mean 30 knots.
..I see what you did there !!
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