jabwmu

Hey Scambo. Thanks for the help. I actually called Alpa and they said it is located in scheduling alert 12-02 & 12-06. I'll check out the crew resources news as well. Thanks again.

Rogue24

Bar;

Just because the event does not violate the PWA nor does it violate the actual language of the C&BL, not does it violate AM Section 40, (scope was not changed and the DAL PWA still rules, per the Bridge Agreement) it does not preclude the MEC from coming to a consensus that they do not enjoy the fact that they were not informed nor part of the process. Maybe the understanding of the C&BL is not how the actual language reads.

Resolutions start the process of debating the issue at the local and then MEC level (If passed at the LEC level). I have read on here that you want the language changed to take out the ambiguity. When is your LEC meeting? Is your meeting before the MEC meeting where a passed local resolution will have the ability to be debated at the next Regular MEC meeting? (Feb 12-15) If so, write a resolution and get some debate of the issue at you LEC meeting.

If that does not seem like enough, use you ability to speak to the MEC during the MEC Meeting. Every pilot in good standing has the right.

Bucking Bar

Rogue24,

How did we reach a consensus without a meeting ?

Do we have unconfirmed contract admin making unilateral determinations on CBL matters ?

This "determination" before the MEC meeting in February preempts action the staff does not want.

The way I see it, the language exists in the Admin Manual. That language was ignored. Again using the speeder analogy:

WHEREAS the current law states the speed limit in the school zone is 25 MPH.
WHEREAS some drivers insist on doing 80
LET IT BE RESOVED the law will read: "The speed limit in the school zone is REALLY 25 MPH.

Same folks who refuse to enforce current language would be no more compelled to enforce any future language.

gloopy

The CMR fleet agreement was signed by CMR management, not DAL management. If it were broken, the CMR pilots could only grieve it with CMR management, not DAL, regardless of their wholly owned status. Theoretically fleet counts could be maintained by flying for other airlines, or even an "Indy Air" or ExpressJet type of operation as well, but of course that never happened. Either way though, CMR pilots never "owned" any DAL flying directly with DAL management.

gloopy

We just did.

gloopy

Can they pick up and drop off pax in HNL or just a drop off only and a refuel stop?

scambo1

Will somebody please pass the Soylent Green? I love soylent green, it's delicious.

Everything complies with everything, la di da what a beautiful day. La la la da di da da.

johnso29

Incorrect. The HA marketing agreement only allows the DL code to be put on inter Hawaii flying.

80ktsClamp

I do appreciate his snarkiness on it. The HA guys cant be that happy as that thing is going to be replacing some of their 767s.

Bucking Bar

If there was no meeting, then this is some sort of an administrative determination.

But, our administration has not yet been confirmed by our MEC. So how could they reach a determination in an office they do not yet hold?

Further, when has admin been responsible for handling alleged violations of our Constitution and Bylaws? Where does it say that anywhere in the governing documents of our association?

This looks like an attempt to preempt any democratic response by the members of our union. After all, why resolutions if there is nothing to be fixed? Nothing to see here ... move on ....