Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-16-2013, 06:15 PM
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Generally no.
Folks like me who post a lot (~ 6,700) know that people fact check us, research our posts and hold us accountable.
It seems you ( 42 posts ) come here when ALPA has political problems deliberately post in such a way as to introduce false issues to distract from the malfeasance of your political friends. ( like your bringing up the RJDC when Dan Ford and Ken Cooksey never dreamed of trying to lock the Delta MEC out of the room like Lee Moak just did to the Delta pilots ... we Delta pilots were completely taken for granted ... not even a "how do you do?" )
A man of integrity looks past the politicians to the real issues. We hope ALPA and Delta will both be here long after our brief time on the stage has passed. The more important issues involve the governance of our union so that it remains an ongoing entity.
So, what office do you currently hold on behalf of our association?
Folks like me who post a lot (~ 6,700) know that people fact check us, research our posts and hold us accountable.
It seems you ( 42 posts ) come here when ALPA has political problems deliberately post in such a way as to introduce false issues to distract from the malfeasance of your political friends. ( like your bringing up the RJDC when Dan Ford and Ken Cooksey never dreamed of trying to lock the Delta MEC out of the room like Lee Moak just did to the Delta pilots ... we Delta pilots were completely taken for granted ... not even a "how do you do?" )
A man of integrity looks past the politicians to the real issues. We hope ALPA and Delta will both be here long after our brief time on the stage has passed. The more important issues involve the governance of our union so that it remains an ongoing entity.
So, what office do you currently hold on behalf of our association?
Carl
01-16-2013, 06:16 PM
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So if the first PCS run is on the 20th, how is it that reserve requirements for Feb 3rd went from above coverage to below coverage? 27 required 29 available and now its 27-27. How did it go down if the PCS first run hasn't happened?
One person got to drop their February awarded trip before the PCS run, how do you do that? I'd like to be able to do that.
One person got to drop their February awarded trip before the PCS run, how do you do that? I'd like to be able to do that.
01-16-2013, 06:24 PM
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01-16-2013, 06:28 PM
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This is puzzling Bar. On one hand you're correct in stating that the most serious of our problems is the governance of our union. On the other hand, you seem to believe that the reason it's so important is to ensure ALPA remains an ongoing entity. Whether ALPA remains an ongoing entity is way down on the list of importance. The reason resolving our governance issues is so important is because the lack of governance and adherence to policy is causing the dues paying members to be ill-served. Any "entity" that behaves this way shouldn't be an entity...much less an ongoing one. It only deserves ongoing status if their desire to represent exceeds their desire for self-serving survival.
Carl
Carl
Should we have overthrow the US Government when we have a President who goes off the reservation? Have we? Or, does it make more sense to participate in the next election and help the guy you want get elected?
Besides the fact that I think I'm more of a loyalist than Lee Moak, if ever I were to even breathe a word of support for decertification Hornetsnest, Sailing, Slow and Alpha would have a Section VIII resolution on the agenda for the very next LEC meeting. He he he, maybe I should make such a post just to watch the representational response
How fast do you think they could move to Section 8 my keester? They might just do it anyway on the principle that I'm more trouble than my $2,500 is worth.
01-16-2013, 06:31 PM
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I do not get your points. You equate Delta pilot labor to any other vendor that Delta management does a contract with. You go further to state that if Delta wants to do mutually exclusive deals with different pilot groups, none of our business.
You also state senior Captains are going to lose their house, while conveniently ignoring the plight of their First Officers who will be the guys really losing their jobs.
I don't care for the political brand of whitewash used to paint over representational malfeasance. Plain and simple, the Pinnacle pilots did not abide by Section 40 of the Admin Manual. Plain and simple, our pilot group got locked out of the room.
You also state senior Captains are going to lose their house, while conveniently ignoring the plight of their First Officers who will be the guys really losing their jobs.
I don't care for the political brand of whitewash used to paint over representational malfeasance. Plain and simple, the Pinnacle pilots did not abide by Section 40 of the Admin Manual. Plain and simple, our pilot group got locked out of the room.
Carl
01-16-2013, 06:39 PM
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That would have made a splash. Can passengers sue? If so, do they sue Delta? So when they say we couldn't fly as cheaply as the lowest bidder regional airline, does that include lawsuits because of things done outside of their direct control while transporting their passengers?
Maybe, I get what it is about this Pinnacle thing you don't like, you see it as Delta pilots are on the path to just becoming one of many suckling...
Maybe, I get what it is about this Pinnacle thing you don't like, you see it as Delta pilots are on the path to just becoming one of many suckling...
Yes. I think one makes a more satisfying picture than many.
01-16-2013, 06:43 PM
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When Mr. Moak signs the Pinnacle agreement, he will be showing these new insolent reps (and the insolent pilots they "represent") that ALPA national decides what will be in your contract...period. The only question is: Will our new reps go to the mat on this, or will they roll over? If they roll over, spending money on a local chapter of ALPA is a total waste of time and money. Because we will be completely irrelevant.
Carl
Carl
Our new Reps don't take office until March. There is little they can do to fix an agreement which was ratified today.
01-16-2013, 06:46 PM
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I say that is more tease than baby please. I say that is a fake photo.
How about this photo? Can this work?
01-16-2013, 06:47 PM
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01-16-2013, 06:51 PM
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