Originally Posted by Falcon7

There are two separate documents I'm using, one is the published DAL Fleet Booklet on DeltaNet, which shows 49 MD-90s currently in service as of the 4Q 2012., the other is the August Code Share Committee report which shows a total of 65 MD-90s with I believe their delivery dates (perhaps not all yet in service).

Here's the source and delivery dates of all 65 from the code share report.

Orig. DAL...............16............1995-1997
Hello.......................3............Winter 2010
China Eastern...........9........... Apr-Jun 2011
SAS .......................8 ............Sep-Dec 2011
China Southern ......13........... Jan-May 2012
JAL .......................16........... Feb 2012- Feb 2013

My guess is that there are currently 49 in service and the remaining 16 JAL MD-90s will be coming into service this year.

Originally Posted by flyallnite

ANA just grounded all 17 of their Dreamliners...

Originally Posted by tim123

The fleet booklet on deltanet says 49 in service with 7 more on order.I wonder did the 65 number get reduced?

Originally Posted by georgetg

ALFA, you make some good points and I agree it at the very least bad karma to look down upon where one came from.

On the other hand there is a unique culture among Delta pilots that is unmatched at the regional level.
What do I know, between the shrink and the interview panel, somehow the end result seems to be a fairly homogenous group regardless of background.

That unique "culture" is simply not a given on the regional level where there are a lot more outliers...

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

If you actually knew what you were talking about., you would know that there is a side letter that bypasses the published requirements so certain senior members of their ranks will get a shot that they don't deserve. That is my beef with this. If DL changed their requirements for everyone, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Originally Posted by SailorJerry

While I agree that we should lend a hand, I think, at the most basic level, that people are gun shy about this whole thing because we were circumvented in the negotiation of it. We could have risen as a high and mighty pilot group together and said "let's bring them all here and give them shelter, but only if XYZ". And I assume XYZ would look similar to what we have now.

What my concern is, is that we're going to bypass exceptional applicants in order to interview the PNCL pilots. Which if they're so great - they should have gotten hired - not me. Now - sure - you can say they'll be held to the same standard and they may all fail, but I think we're concerned about complications from selecting a substandard product because we have to. But I haven't seen their resumes so I can only assume they're still at PNCL by choice, not because of rejection. Even though 85% of them saw a massive concessionary agreement as a good enough thing to vote yes on.

I'm sure I'll have some great bridge program FOs someday. But one bad one will sour the image of the whole bunch. What better way to mitigate that issue than by including the opinions of 12000 people who like to number 2 all over themselves.

And if you're that high and mighty to be adamantly against this because they're "RJ pilots" google "two girls one cup".

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Allow me to contrast what is happening with what the Comair pilots fought for (and lost).

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It could also mean that delta will just have to interview a hack of a lot more pilots to get what they want too.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Has anyone seen it? The rumor is it says "flow" and factually this agreement is not about flows. If there is a agreement that talks about flows it may be for those that are part of the mesaba flows. Who knows, and that's the point. If you or anyone has a copy of this send it to me.