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Old 01-13-2013, 12:54 PM
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This was the original "Snakes on a plane" without Samuel L Jackson.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
What happens if the A321 rumor is true?
Well the A321 rumor and the Hawaiian Airlines rumor both came true!


well, sort of.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Well the A321 rumor and the Hawaiian Airlines rumor both came true!


well, sort of.
Good one, I like the the way you are thinking!
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
It's not based on route by route. They're mostly long term capacity purchase agreements with letter grade performance bonuses as well as poor performance kill switches. The only time there is a bid is when the RFP goes out.

HOWEVER - the majority of the CRJ-900s are owned outright by Delta Air Lines, Inc. As a result, Delta can wheel and deal those airplanes more often, as they're on not much more than month to month leases for $1 a month to the DCI carriers.

Unfortunately for your scenario, Skywest owns their own CR9s, so the capacity purchase agreement applies. Details of said agreement can be found in the SKYW Annual Report.

With all that said, Delta does negotiate more flexible contracts than United or US Airways. This is mostly what allows the whipsaw to be as violent as it is.

It's interesting reading the 10k report for Skywest. Funny that Delta leases them a lot of aircraft for 'nominal' rates and then pays them cost+ to fly the block hours. Well, maybe funny is the wrong word. What's also interesting is that Skywest is contractually obligated to be the second lowest cost operator for Delta, but Delta waived that obligation until EOY 2015:
The Delta Connection Agreements also provide that, beginning with the fifth anniversary of the execution of the agreements (September 8, 2010), Delta has the right to require that certain contractual rates under those agreements shall not exceed the second lowest of all carriers within the Delta Connection program. During the fourth quarter of 2010, SkyWest Airlines and Atlantic Southeast reached an agreement with Delta on contractual rates satisfying the 2010 rate reset provision and the second-lowest rate provision and agreed to rates through December 31, 2015. Delta additionally waived its right to require that the contractual rates payable under the Delta Connection Agreements shall not exceed the second-lowest rates of all carriers within the Delta Connection program through December 31, 2015.

Maybe this is part of the reason a lot of regional pilots are urging Pinnacle pilots to vote no.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lysithea25
It's interesting reading the 10k report for Skywest. Funny that Delta leases them a lot of aircraft for 'nominal' rates and then pays them cost+ to fly the block hours. Well, maybe funny is the wrong word. What's also interesting is that Skywest is contractually obligated to be the second lowest cost operator for Delta, but Delta waived that obligation until EOY 2015...
Maybe this is part of the reason a lot of regional pilots are urging Pinnacle pilots to vote no.
Thanks to Jerry I saw that too.

I wonder what the "story behind the curtain" is?
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
The Company may not ask for contractual changes for the new rules, but DALPA will offer changes. Isn't that how we roll, constructive engagement and all....
The stated reason was the company feels past LOA's were to costly for the changes the company got. The are not willing to overpay again and feel no deal would be possible. They will take the hit and operate under the current contract.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They will take the hit and operate under the current contract.
What hit would they take?
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
Thanks to Jerry I saw that too.

I wonder what the "story behind the curtain" is?
Another interesting tidbit:
On August 2, 2012, the Company announced that it reached an understanding with Delta to add 34 additional used dual-class Bombardier regional jet aircraft that were previously operated by other regional carriers for Delta in exchange for the early termination of 66 Bombardier CRJ200 regional jet aircraft (“CRJ200s”) under the SkyWest Airlines and ExpressJet Delta Connection Agreements. The Company anticipates the 34 additional dual-class aircraft will be subleased from Delta for a nominal amount. The 34 additional dual-class aircraft consist of five Bombardier CRJ700 regional jet aircraft (“CRJ700s”) and 29 Bombardier CRJ900 regional jet aircraft (“CRJ900s”). As of September 30, 2012, the Company had taken delivery of 13 CRJ900s and 2 CRJ700s. The Company anticipates that the remaining dual-class aircraft to be provided by Delta will be delivered by June 2013. The Company anticipates that all 66 CRJ200 aircraft will be removed from the Delta Connection Agreements by December 31, 2015. Of the 66 CRJ200s to be removed from service, 41 CRJ200s are subleased from Delta for a nominal amount, which are scheduled to be returned to Delta without obligation to the Company. As of September 30, 2012, three of the 66 CRJ200 aircraft have been removed.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
What hit would they take?
There are numerous areas that create some issues. One example is the contract requires 3 pilots over 8 hours international. Some current 2 man trips will require 3 pilots with the hard limits but they can't drop to two on other routes. There are other issues that will increase credit time on some trips. The hard limits will require more reserves.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The Seattle vs San Fransisco game next week should be pretty good.
Well, on behalf of Fox Sports, the NFL, 48 out of 50 states (GA and ME being the 2), and Denny Crane... that sucked.

Not everyone was upset with having to watch another major football game from the Georgia Dingy Dome. The state of Geo... I mean the city of Altanta, the Bay Area and the Patriots, are excited.



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