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Old 01-10-2013, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
Absolutely correct sailing. The awards were obviously screwed up and pulled. The same thing has occasionally happened with the preliminary monthly bids. If we whine loud enough, the company will just wait until the last possible contractually allowed limit to post any awards.

BTW, I got my first choice of vacation bids (Two weeks over my anniversary.) During a rerun I may lose it and although I won't be happy, I won't accuse DAL or ALPA of screwing me.
Fair enough. They can rerun it and give any affected pilot a choice between the first award and the second and then deal with the staffing consequences their mistake caused. The difference is that on the PBS runs, there is a disclaimer that awards aren't final until posted in DBMS. Not so in this case. I'll whine as loud as I want. I care far less about how fast the awards come out than I do about the accuracy of the results. Even the prehistoric IT that Delta clings to is no excuse for that kind of sloppiness.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
Absolutely correct sailing. The awards were obviously screwed up and pulled. The same thing has occasionally happened with the preliminary monthly bids. If we whine loud enough, the company will just wait until the last possible contractually allowed limit to post any awards.

BTW, I got my first choice of vacation bids (Two weeks over my anniversary.) During a rerun I may lose it and although I won't be happy, I won't accuse DAL or ALPA of screwing me.
Looks like the re-run is done. My vacation is one week earlier (and better) than it was yesterday.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Give me a break! The awards were all screwed up. The only way to fix it is to rerun them. They have only been out a day. They don't have to be out for like another week. I am sure if someone can show that since yesterday they paid for a expensive vacation the issue will be addressed on a case by case basis. If they left the awards as posted the vast majority of pilots would have no way of knowing if they recieved a correct award or not since changing just one week can cascade through a entire award. ALPA going along, what a crock, they are trying to fix it.
One poster put on here they he was screwed and ALPA would not do anything to fix it. They fix the awards and someone elses posts that ALPA is going along with a rerun and thats wrong. Reruning the bids is the only way to insure each pilot got what he should have held.
Sailing;

I'm glad you are still on this forum. I was not wanting to lose your perspective.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:16 PM
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Log onto DLnet and there is an explanation of what happened and what was done to fix it. Now the screw up is in the secondary weeks available! It shows me in a totally different category!
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:18 PM
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No big deal if they are not what you want. Take your awarded vacation, call in sick for the time you really want off and voila a win win situation. 3,2,1.....que pineapple guy


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Fair enough. They can rerun it and give any affected pilot a choice between the first award and the second and then deal with the staffing consequences their mistake caused. The difference is that on the PBS runs, there is a disclaimer that awards aren't final until posted in DBMS. Not so in this case. I'll whine as loud as I want. I care far less about how fast the awards come out than I do about the accuracy of the results. Even the prehistoric IT that Delta clings to is no excuse for that kind of sloppiness.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Sailing;

I'm glad you are still on this forum. I was not wanting to lose your perspective.
+1 and I hope he doesn't give up on the "other" forum. (As tempting as it may be.)
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
+1 and I hope he doesn't give up on the "other" forum. (As tempting as it may be.)
I gave up on the other forum a long time ago. I rarely go there, but did a day or two ago.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:01 PM
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In my case, I kept the original award.

Before we get too whiny about re-running or not re-running... has anyone actually been warded a lower choice the second time around?
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:01 PM
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Ok... So my award didn't change and I still have my 40th some odd choice. There are plenty of weeks available on secondary for my first choice of vacation. Why didn't I get it as my primary?
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Ok... So my award didn't change and I still have my 40th some odd choice. There are plenty of weeks available on secondary for my first choice of vacation. Why didn't I get it as my primary?
Mine was the same. First time I haven't gotten Thanksgiving off in awhile. Did get the anniversary off though, so my wife is happy. Vegas here we come.
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