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01-07-2013, 02:41 PM

#119411

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters

While you guys discuss petty things like displacements, I'm thinking Irish by 4

But... do they want tha gold???

"Who all seen da leprechaun say yeh-ah!"

Could be a crackhead that gold hold of the wrong stuff!

01-07-2013, 02:47 PM

#119412

Jughead

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Originally Posted by contrails

Now Jughead I'm not saying I agree with hockeypilot on the topic you're discussing, but I did find the following sequence funny.

We'll get em' next year.

01-07-2013, 02:50 PM

#119413

Scoop

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

I took that update as very negative. It looks like just about every category is displacing including MD-88 as the 717's arrive. I already mentioned on hear I have heard the furlough word mentioned a couple times recently. That might not happen, but it is pretty obvious that we are still a few years away from hiring. I personally think it could be 5 more years.

Hockey,

I also thought the update was negative, but I think you are taking it a little too far. When I say negative, I guess I mean compared to my expectations which appear to have been a little too high.

Overall I think the bid will be net positive, with a bunch of new NB Captain positions, but falling short of what I was hoping for, which is a bid with few or (gasp) zero displacements - just positive movement.

It appears to me that a lot of the advancements will be cancelled out by displacements - this is very disapointing. Then again, maybe we will be pleasantly surprised.

Scoop

01-07-2013, 02:52 PM

#119414

sinca3

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I agree that the ATL 767 flying going to the ATL 7ER is a very good thing. Excellent news.

Where else would that time have gone? Those flights would still need to e covered, maybe not by 75/6, but a 73 or 320.

01-07-2013, 03:02 PM

#119415

johnso29

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Originally Posted by sinca3

Where else would that time have gone? Those flights would still need to e covered, maybe not by 75/6, but a 73 or 320.

All to lower paying 737-900ER and A320 positions. Transferring it to ATL 7ER means 757s staying put.

01-07-2013, 03:21 PM

#119416

scambo1

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Originally Posted by Sink r8

I find it interesting that we're being told more and more frequently what we need to bid. If I understand correctly, anyone that bids the 717 from the 9 is just not a team player.

And yet, it's a 365-day bid.

I didn't think that exactly when I read it, but now that you mention it...

So, when is the GUM base going to come up?

01-07-2013, 03:25 PM

#119417

Scoop

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Reserve Manning Question

I noticed a 1 day trip coming up and saw a pilot with 1 day availability that I thought would get the trip. Well that Pilot did not get that trip - it went to a pilot with 5 days of availability. OK - Maybe that Pilot requested the trip but then I noticed the Pilot with 1 day of availability disappeared from the reserves available list.

Then I notice the same Pilot shows up next week with a much higher raw score - but this Pilot did not show up on the trip coverage report even once.

So my question is how does a pilot disappear from the availability list without having a trip assigned? And with the increased raw score it appears the Pilot flew but never showed up on trip coverage.

I can think of a few ways the Pilot can disappear from the availability list:

Calling in sick.
Moving x days.

But how would either of these bump up the pilots raw score? I don't think the Pilot went to training (was not scheduled in the bid awards) but somehow disappears and shows up with a higher raw score?

Wouldn't reserve assignments show up on the trip coverage reports? What about covering a trip for another base?

Scoop

01-07-2013, 03:32 PM

#119418

firstmob

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Originally Posted by scambo1

I didn't think that exactly when I read it, but now that you mention it...

So, when is the GUM base going to come up?

The GUM base opens right after the A321's are delivered.

01-07-2013, 03:33 PM

#119419

scambo1

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I know youz guys are jealous when you see someone else eating crow because it tastes so stinkin' good, but I am going to chow on some.

It does appear that trip parking has been significantly curtailed - even with a and b crews.

01-07-2013, 03:33 PM

#119420

Sink r8

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I think your RAW goes up when sick. If not, my guess (and it's a pure guess) is that you'd penalize people that are sick by essentially work to make up their sickness. Wouldn't surprise me if there were status driving this.