Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-07-2013, 11:58 AM
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They also posted the fate of the 767ATL category. The news was very good. They plan on moving most of not all the flying to the 7ER category. There were lots of rumors on here of mass parkings of 757's this year and that the time on the 767ATL category would simply go away with the category closing. They also said there may be more then the planned 120 new CA's positions posted. Overall the only changes in this memo from the last few months were good ones. We keep the 767 time and may get additional 737 CA's positions. There are going to be a lot of new first time Captains on this bid.
01-07-2013, 12:00 PM
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I find it interesting that we're being told more and more frequently what we need to bid. If I understand correctly, anyone that bids the 717 from the 9 is just not a team player.
And yet, it's a 365-day bid.
And yet, it's a 365-day bid.
01-07-2013, 12:01 PM
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01-07-2013, 12:04 PM
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They also posted the fate of the 767ATL category. The news was very good. They plan on moving most of not all the flying to the 7ER category. There were lots of rumors on here of mass parkings of 757's this year and that the time on the 767ATL category would simply go away with the category closing. They also said there may be more then the planned 120 new CA's positions posted. Overall the only changes in this memo from the last few months were good ones. We keep the 767 time and may get additional 737 CA's positions. There are going to be a lot of new first time Captains on this bid.
01-07-2013, 12:05 PM
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01-07-2013, 12:06 PM
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Sailing and Dalad,
How do you get a sense of positive OR negative from the memo? The big unknown is how many 7ER F/O's they're going to surplus, and they are admittedly overstaffed in the 320 and 88 in that seat as well, and the DC 9 in both seats.
I don't mind being optimistic, and I in fact am generally optimistic, but how do you accomplish that based on this update? Is a pronouncement on the future based on this text, naysayer or cheerleader, not a faith-based exercise?
How do you get a sense of positive OR negative from the memo? The big unknown is how many 7ER F/O's they're going to surplus, and they are admittedly overstaffed in the 320 and 88 in that seat as well, and the DC 9 in both seats.
I don't mind being optimistic, and I in fact am generally optimistic, but how do you accomplish that based on this update? Is a pronouncement on the future based on this text, naysayer or cheerleader, not a faith-based exercise?
01-07-2013, 12:07 PM
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01-07-2013, 12:08 PM
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They also posted the fate of the 767ATL category. The news was very good. They plan on moving most of not all the flying to the 7ER category. There were lots of rumors on here of mass parkings of 757's this year and that the time on the 767ATL category would simply go away with the category closing. They also said there may be more then the planned 120 new CA's positions posted. Overall the only changes in this memo from the last few months were good ones. We keep the 767 time and may get additional 737 CA's positions. There are going to be a lot of new first time Captains on this bid.
Well I should hope so, but I tend to think Clamp is on to something - "Overstaffed" seems to describe most categories.
So what was potentially going to finally start the movement as a very, very positive bid may be mitigated by the tons of displacements that the memo mentions.
If for instance, a lot of the surplus 7ER FOs take up a lot of the 717 Captain spots, the bottom guys may not see that much upward movement at all, yet again. So this bid in which we were all hoping for great thing gets pushed to a more "neutral" status, and we are once again treading water.
I am hoping for the best. but I don't see this memo as positive at all.
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01-07-2013, 12:17 PM
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We have conducted some simulation runs and believe that the majority of the ATL-767 domestic flying will move to the ATL-7ER category.
Just wait and see, I guess.
01-07-2013, 12:18 PM
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Well I should hope so, but I tend to think Clamp is on to something - "Overstaffed" seems to describe most categories.
So what was potentially going to finally start the movement as a very, very positive bid may be mitigated by the tons of displacements that the memo mentions.
If for instance, a lot of the displaced 7ER FOs take up a lot of the 717 Captain spots, the bottom guys may not see that much upward movement at all, yet again. So this bid in which we were all hoping for great thing gets pushed to a more "neutral" status, and we are once again treading water.
I am hoping for the best. but I don't see this memo as positive at all.
Scoop
So what was potentially going to finally start the movement as a very, very positive bid may be mitigated by the tons of displacements that the memo mentions.
If for instance, a lot of the displaced 7ER FOs take up a lot of the 717 Captain spots, the bottom guys may not see that much upward movement at all, yet again. So this bid in which we were all hoping for great thing gets pushed to a more "neutral" status, and we are once again treading water.
I am hoping for the best. but I don't see this memo as positive at all.
Scoop
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