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Old 01-02-2013, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Here is one mention of the 320 in a September Flight Ops Comm, I'll paraphrase:

319s are young. We have some 80s/early 90s 320s coming up on their life cycle checks. If Airbus is unable to extend those life cycle checks (and why would they want to?) then we will park these 320s in 2015.

And we're overstaffed on A320 Bs.
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As I understand it Airbus certificated the A-320 series for a certain life cycle. Part of that life cycle is an assumption of the condition of the aircraft when it reached that point based on their testing and extrapolation.

However Airbus is finding the airframes that are coming up on their "drop dead dates" are in better shape than they anticipated. I've heard Delta (and some other carriers) are paying Airbus to do some testing with the objective being to extend the life cycle of the aircraft.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:34 PM
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This was the Outback Bowl Charter for the Gamecocks, a 757-200 on 12/26. True airspeed was filed (per flightaware.com) as 354 kts.

The trip home was filed (1/2/13) as 470 kts.

Can someone explain the 116 kt difference? Altitudes were 380 down and 350 back.

Or do I just need to go back and read up on TAS?

ps Chuck Norris just ordered a Jadaveon Clowney jersey.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by N9373M
This was the Outback Bowl Charter for the Gamecocks, a 757-200 on 12/26. True airspeed was filed (per flightaware.com) as 354 kts.

The trip home was filed (1/2/13) as 470 kts.

Can someone explain the 116 kt difference? Altitudes were 380 down and 350 back.

Or do I just need to go back and read up on TAS?

ps Chuck Norris just ordered a Jadaveon Clowney jersey.
Thats a flightaware error.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
The oldest A320's we have we're delivered to NWA in 1990. And nowhere does it state 30 A320's will be parked.
As per several of the big horses' mouths, they are correct. The oldest 30 or 40's lift will be replaced by the 739s.

Mainline fleet will be growing and we'll be needing more pilots... I don't get where all the negative nanciness is coming from today if they actually looked at the fleet plan.

Those 8 757s were supposed to leave the fleet by yesterday... any word if they actually went?
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
As per several of the big horses' mouths, they are correct. The oldest 30 or 40's lift will be replaced by the 739s.

Mainline fleet will be growing and we'll be needing more pilots... I don't get where all the negative nanciness is coming from today if they actually looked at the fleet plan.

Those 8 757s were supposed to leave the fleet by yesterday... any word if they actually went?
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There has been no official publication of numbers. Everything said to this point is "he said she said" rumors. I'm not denying that 320's will be parked, but until it's official it's simply a rumor that is subject to change.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by N9373M
This was the Outback Bowl Charter for the Gamecocks, a 757-200 on 12/26. True airspeed was filed (per flightaware.com) as 354 kts.

The trip home was filed (1/2/13) as 470 kts.

Can someone explain the 116 kt difference? Altitudes were 380 down and 350 back.

Or do I just need to go back and read up on TAS?

ps Chuck Norris just ordered a Jadaveon Clowney jersey.
Definitely an error. Perhaps they mistakenly published an average groundspeed? At FL380 TAS would be around 455-465 knots regardless of direction.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
The real hurt will be felt by reserves when staffing isn't fat in a year or two. What reserves are experiencing now will be a distant relative to how things will be when the company is operating much leaner down the road. The non-hiring phase was certainly extended when the company was given more productivity.


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While it is true that we are fat now and reserves may be ridden harder as we "lean" out our manning, we will most likely also start a period of much greater (any) positive movement and hopefully end the era of retrograde movement most of us have experienced for the last decade.

So although reserves may be abused more in the future (still very domicile and equipment dependent) hopefully pilots will be able to bid off reserve much more quickly by bidding into/staying in a junior position. Presently a lot of guys are truly stuck on reserve - once the movement starts, reserve will more of a choice for most pilots.

As far as furloughs go - I don't really don't so. Even if some improvident bean counter actually wanted to furlough it would cause too much A$$-pain for the company - removing seats from RJs, Flowing guys down to DCI IAW the flows etc. Most no furlough clauses are close to worthless (been furloughed with a no furlough clause in effect) our contract, while actually allowing furloughs makes it very, very inconvenient for the company to pull the trigger on a Furlough. Not saying it can't happen, but not worth worrying about.


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Old 01-02-2013, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
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While it is true that we are fat now and reserves may be ridden harder as we "lean" out our manning, we will most likely also start a period of much greater (any) positive movement and hopefully end the era of retrograde movement most of us have experienced for the last decade.

So although reserves may be abused more in the future (still very domicile and equipment dependent) hopefully pilots will be able to bid off reserve much more quickly by bidding into/staying in a junior position. Presently a lot of guys are truly stuck on reserve - once the movement starts, reserve will more of a choice for most pilots.

As far as furloughs go - I don't really don't so. Even if some improvident bean counter actually wanted to furlough it would cause too much A$$-pain for the company - removing seats from RJs, Flowing guys down to DCI IAW the flows etc. Most no furlough clauses are close to worthless (been furloughed with a no furlough clause in effect) our contract, while actually allowing furloughs makes it very, very inconvenient for the company to pull the trigger on a Furlough. Not saying it can't happen, but not worth worrying about.


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Good point on movement....when hiring starts in 2014-15, guys will be able to get off reserve. One thing gone forever however, the ability of those toward the bottom of the list living in base to enjoy a greater quality of life by bidding reserve over a low quality line. Water under the bridge as with all work rule losses I suppose.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by N9373M
This was the Outback Bowl Charter for the Gamecocks, a 757-200 on 12/26. True airspeed was filed (per flightaware.com) as 354 kts.

The trip home was filed (1/2/13) as 470 kts.

Can someone explain the 116 kt difference? Altitudes were 380 down and 350 back.

Or do I just need to go back and read up on TAS?

ps Chuck Norris just ordered a Jadaveon Clowney jersey.
Sounds like Flightaware might be reporting Ground Speed instead of TAS.

I'm a Michigan fan and that hit he put on the running back made my teeth hurt up here in DTW.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Thats a flightaware error.
yes definite error.

had that been an md-88, then it's about right.
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