The company gets much greater productivity out of its reserve system with the TA notwithstanding the SD memo suggesting we would likely hire last year if we passed it. As a result there's less need for labor from what we had under the old PWA. Granted, let me put that in caps for some, GRANTED, the TA was not responsible for all the overstaffing, it just exacerbated the situation. But, IMO, not to the point that we'd furlough.

01-02-2013, 12:01 PM

#118982

johnso29

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Joined APC: Oct 2006

Position: B757/767

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Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

The older 320s were originally mentioned along with the 756s as airplanes the 739 would replace. But I've never seen a number thrown anywhere on how many would go.

As to the 717s being delayed, that was a rumor from a few months back and it was on here. But we haven't really heard anything more sense, anyone have updates on that?

Yes, the 737-900ERs will replace some B757/767s and A320s. We haven't seen a number thrown out because there haven't been any. I'd say the # is still up in the air. With 100 B737-900ERs, 88 B717s, 19 MD90s still coming I think furloughs are highly unlikely.

As to the B717 delays, as you said it was simply a rumor. And we all know how many rumors on APC become reality.

If anything, I could see the B717s coming early. SWA wants to accelerate the SWA/AT intergration, & dumping the B717s will be part of that.

01-02-2013, 12:01 PM

#118983

80ktsClamp

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Joined APC: Oct 2006

Position: Poodle Whisperer

Posts: 17,473

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

At end of summer, 757's and 320's start getting parked. 717's get delayed while 17 remaining DC-9's start going away. We are already overstaffed as is in the winter months. I personally don't think it will happen, but I have heard the word more than once now in the last couple weeks. Right after the first time I heard it, Ed Bastain made his comment about not anticipating any hiring this year.

What part of "mainline is going to be growing by 70+ airplanes" do you not understand?

01-02-2013, 12:05 PM

#118984

forgot to bid

veut gagner à la loterie

Joined APC: Apr 2008

Position: Light Chop

Posts: 23,286

Now if that had been a 90, those calm mechanics you see there would look like this

And something would be burning. That's a given.

01-02-2013, 12:05 PM

#118985

groundstop

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Joined APC: Dec 2007

Posts: 302

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

No one has said a word about 320's, but I could see some of the older ones being parked.

30 or so of the older A320's are slated to be replaced by incoming 737's. This has been mentioned several times by the company.

01-02-2013, 12:06 PM

#118986

Roadkill

meh

Joined APC: Oct 2010

Posts: 828

Gunship guy is right and Elvis is now wrong. We now staff for winter and just overfly reserves to alv plus 15 in summer. Biggest problem with the TA IMO. Huge hiring setback and I don't think we'll know the full extent of that labor loss until after this summer.

01-02-2013, 12:07 PM

#118987

johnso29

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Joined APC: Oct 2006

Position: B757/767

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Correct, but it sure will be nice when these "upgrades" are not mostly staffed by displacements. ... besides, I've got a man crush on the 767/757 platform ... good airplane ... hate to see it go.

Not sure they will be. We will just have to wait and see. And your crush is understandable. I have it too.