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01-01-2013, 09:28 AM
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Ok my understanding is when sitting RSV SC is assigned to the most junior first as well as those having the most days available taking into account your grouping. Obviously everyone is still in group 1 for January. I feel there is someone with more RSV days available and junior to me that should have been assigned SC before me.
The reserve list shows very little of what someone has flown. There might be 1in7 issues, 30 in 7 issues, 32-7 issues (for Int'l), etc etc that limit someone getting put on SC or used for a flight. Then there are yellow slips, people wanting to be on SC, people wanting certain SC times, etc etc.
THEN scheduler discretion comes into play - weather, sick outs, weather in other bases, cancellations, etc. In my base, people have been put on SC for specific charters that may or may not go (ie, sports charters than depend if a different team wins or loses).
In short, it's very complicated. You can try calling the scheduler and asking, but they are busy, (ie, there is generally ONE scheduler for all the 7ER pilots, one for the M88, one for the 765 and 777 combined I think).
01-01-2013, 09:29 AM
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01-01-2013, 10:37 AM
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One thing to keep in mind about SC is how it plays out with LC.
Say the first 10 pilots are given SC for tomorrow and say around 8pm someone calls in sick for the next day. Say Pineapple Guy, he's not really sick he's just got better things to do.
Just kidding!
But seriously someone calls in sick say around 8pm and drops a 4 day into the system. The computer goes banging around looking for the first pilot on LC to assign that trip. Let's say it's a 1400 show. The computer goes looking and the first person on LC at 1400 is actually the guy with the 1800 SC, so their SC is pulled and they're given a trip. The guy on SC at 1200 is on SC at 1400 so the computer skips that guy. So my least favorite SC is 1930, it kept getting pulled and I kept getting a trip. I'd rather had a morning SC nowadays.
It could also be the first guy it finds on LC is the first guy on LC with no SC assigned to them. So yeah you could be #11 sitting pretty thinking you're not going anywhere but in reality you were #1 on LC.
Or so says the scheduler. Someone else might have a different explanation.
Say the first 10 pilots are given SC for tomorrow and say around 8pm someone calls in sick for the next day. Say Pineapple Guy, he's not really sick he's just got better things to do.
Just kidding! But seriously someone calls in sick say around 8pm and drops a 4 day into the system. The computer goes banging around looking for the first pilot on LC to assign that trip. Let's say it's a 1400 show. The computer goes looking and the first person on LC at 1400 is actually the guy with the 1800 SC, so their SC is pulled and they're given a trip. The guy on SC at 1200 is on SC at 1400 so the computer skips that guy. So my least favorite SC is 1930, it kept getting pulled and I kept getting a trip. I'd rather had a morning SC nowadays.
It could also be the first guy it finds on LC is the first guy on LC with no SC assigned to them. So yeah you could be #11 sitting pretty thinking you're not going anywhere but in reality you were #1 on LC.
Or so says the scheduler. Someone else might have a different explanation.
01-01-2013, 11:10 AM
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Is there any info out there that gives the average number of short calls assigned per individual via base, position and aircraft? Thx
01-01-2013, 11:39 AM
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01-01-2013, 01:44 PM
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Deltanet, Pilot Resources and Scheduling, on the left side just below the shortcuts for icrew/ecrew/paycheck/automated Manuals & Bulletins, click on "January Short Calls"
01-01-2013, 02:37 PM
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01-01-2013, 02:46 PM
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iceman,
That list is supposedly the "target SCs" for the respective month. Crew Schedulers don't use it, & many don't even know it exists. I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Also, there isn't any statistical info out there showing average # of SCs assigned to individuals.
01-01-2013, 03:25 PM
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I'm always on reserve (in base) and never look at the "targeted list". It just frustrated me!
01-01-2013, 04:14 PM
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Iceman, sometimes there are twice as many people on SC than the list would suggest. And sometimes the times are not adhered to. Even the ALPA guys will tell you it's a "guideline". I'm always on reserve (in base) and never look at the "targeted list". It just frustrated me!
I'm always on reserve (in base) and never look at the "targeted list". It just frustrated me!
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