acl65pilot

Are you going to enjoy giving it up for three years?

Tomcat

Nice...... Very subtle...... D-B

Bucking Bar

Sir, based on direct quotes from Lee Moak, Tim O'Malley, and published reports, I think a slight correction needs to be made.

The most recent economic study on this was done during bankruptcy negotiations, done to justify the outsourcing of those airplanes at that time in exchange for "bargaining credits." This is covered in Delta's Negotiator's Notepads and Northwest's ZIP Lines publications. In plain terms, it was a scope sale designed to offset concessionary bargaining.

Currently our negotiators quote this out of date information. If pressed, they will admit that it is out of date. They say they can not update that information until directed to do so by the MEC.

In plain terms the politics drives the numbers. The number crunchers work for the politicians and don't dare "go off the reservation" by telling their superiors - "hey boss, we need new numbers."

A lot has changed since 113c. DCI ground service has been completely restructured and consolidated with Delta mainline's subcontractors. Mainline pay has changed and we had that little change involving the biggest merger in the history of mankind.In fact they did. The politics drives the economic analysis (or refusal to perform due diligence). Even if their intent is spin Compass off we need to know what it is worth, on the list, or off.

This is all public record, which makes me wonder why the spin? To shut us up? We will not be "shushed" by anything other than fact based, objective, analysis.

At least we agree, even with the current MEC, that there is economic justification to retake the E175. As always it is the politics... . Bigotry is pervasive, isn't it?

slowplay

ALPA Economic and Financial Analysis met with management in March on DCI revenue and cost allocation. I am told that negotiator Worrall and FO rep Kessler mentioned it at the 44 meeting as part of a comprehensive scope history review.

80ktsClamp

It was not mentioned during that or the scope analysis (which was all old data anyways... 2007 and earlier from nwa/cal/dal codeshare and before).

There is a reason why people that watch this stuff are surprised to hear this.

acl65pilot

If this is the case, certain members of the administration did not get the memo.

I will say that I have seen the usual suspects do an about face on the E-series flying in the last few months. This caught me off guard since they all had been quite against those jets ever being mainline jets. If an EA was done even a primitive one as the resolutions in March requested it explains them finding God.

I say bravo if they did, and hip hip hooray if they really have changed their minds, because that was the intent and purpose behind the resolution. Now they need to PR that with the rank and file, because if their numbers support these jets as mainline jets, it furthers the arguement to bring CPS completely in to the fold.

Bucking Bar

True. But be careful. They'll butter us up with no action.

An actionable written commitment would have me enthusiastically lining up behind my Reps and MEC instantly.

As they say where I'm from "beware the butter ... you could be the biscuit"

acl65pilot

Bar, this has me it stitches. I swear, you should be a comedian.

Is that how you look at your reps when you talk to them?

newKnow

I thought that was Bar! That's not him????

bigdaddie

Bids are out. Mostly unremarkable. You have to get it from DBMS (e/icrew).