Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-21-2012, 12:44 PM
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I agree with every Delta pilots concern on being directly hired without an interview. The way I see it, Delta management hires the pilots not DALPA. Delta does not have to ask the union who they can and cannot hire. Once hired DALPA will manage the seniority list. If Delta management wants to change the hiring process they don't have to ask the unions permission. I am not trying to make this confrontational just looking at what I believe can and cannot happen.
I totally agree. However, for every Gulfstream guy, there's a pilot at Pinnacle that went about it the right way, has a degree, humble about where he's at and only wants a chance to interview at Delta. Please don't lump the entire pilot group with these Gulfstream guys. It's bad enough I have to fly with some of these clowns on a daily basis.
Thank you for illustrating why a flow is beyond a bad idea. There are WAY too many bad apples at 9E for a flow to be allowed. There are a lot of great guys... screening has to be required for them to be allowed to come over so we can get the good ones and let the crazies die on the vine.
I think the Majority of Pinnacle pilots are professional and have been representing NWA and Delta with great enthusiasm and professionalism.. THese pilots deserve the chance to fly for Delta.
On the other-hand, I have witnessed some 9e pilots that are sloppy, arrogant, rude, and have an entitlement attitude. These pilots need to be selectively weeded out. How? I dont know.
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12-21-2012, 01:03 PM
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12 a month? Wow. But there is an interview. Intriguing. Could work out for the mid seniority guys if everything you guys have been saying is true.
12-21-2012, 01:08 PM
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Not only an interview but Delta has to have access to all Pinnacle, Mesaba and Colgan training records. 12 a month I initially but it increases. Don't know by how much. Maybe tied to your hiring needs.
12-21-2012, 01:20 PM
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Hearing talk of the Gulfstream guys brings back memories of the Northeast pilots that were the Albatross around our neck after that merger in 1972.
Mercifully the last one retired a few years ago.
IMHO the pilots I've flown with have been 98-99% good pilots and normal enough to hang with on a layover. The Northeast guys were more like 50/50. Some of them were so bad you saved some sick leave just in case... That was pre-Do Not Fly list.
Would really hate to see us take on another mass error.
Mercifully the last one retired a few years ago.
IMHO the pilots I've flown with have been 98-99% good pilots and normal enough to hang with on a layover. The Northeast guys were more like 50/50. Some of them were so bad you saved some sick leave just in case... That was pre-Do Not Fly list.
Would really hate to see us take on another mass error.
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12-21-2012, 01:22 PM
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Hearing talk of the Gulfstream guys brings back memories of the Northeast pilots that were the Albatross around our neck after that merger in 1972.
Mercifully the last one retired a few years ago.
IMHO the pilots I've flown with have been 98-99% good pilots and normal enough to hang with on a layover. The Northeast guys were more like 50/50. Some of them were so bad you saved some sick leave just in case... That was pre-Do Not Fly list.
Would really hate to see us take on another mass error.
Mercifully the last one retired a few years ago.
IMHO the pilots I've flown with have been 98-99% good pilots and normal enough to hang with on a layover. The Northeast guys were more like 50/50. Some of them were so bad you saved some sick leave just in case... That was pre-Do Not Fly list.
Would really hate to see us take on another mass error.
The Northeast guys are the thing of legend..and not the good kind!
12-21-2012, 01:29 PM
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Sounds like Delta is trying to ensure quality customer service at Pinnacle while dismantling the airline.
We'll give you guys jobs, but you have to play nice or no job?
Sounds fair to me, I guess.
12-21-2012, 01:39 PM
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What are you guys complaining about?
This piloting thing is not all that hard.
At some major airlines the new hire FOs started flying 18 months ago and have 205 hours.
What could possibly go wrong?
Etihad's first Emirati female pilot sees action - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com
This piloting thing is not all that hard.
At some major airlines the new hire FOs started flying 18 months ago and have 205 hours.
What could possibly go wrong?
Etihad's first Emirati female pilot sees action - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com
12-21-2012, 02:26 PM
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What are you guys complaining about?
This piloting thing is not all that hard.
At some major airlines the new hire FOs started flying 18 months ago and have 205 hours.
What could possibly go wrong?
Etihad's first Emirati female pilot sees action - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com
This piloting thing is not all that hard.
At some major airlines the new hire FOs started flying 18 months ago and have 205 hours.
What could possibly go wrong?
Etihad's first Emirati female pilot sees action - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com
12-21-2012, 02:54 PM
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Plus Daddy D is throwing a minimum of 6K-26K at every pilot if this passes.
12-21-2012, 04:11 PM
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What if a person at Pinnacle has applied to Delta and was not accepted because of the interview, not the computer testing. As far as I know if you fail the testing you could reapply in 6 months, but if you failed the interview you were not allowed to reapply or I guess you could reapply but you were not going to get another interview. How might this affect the "Guaranteed interview"?
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