Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-12-2012, 01:48 PM
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KC10 Fatboy, I had the same issue on getting the cursor where I wanted, and finally posted about it... someone explained it to me. You press your finger on the place you want to insert, HOLD IT THERE, in a second a magnifying glass will pop up and you can slide the insert point back and forth and insert with ease and precision. It's not intuitively obvious, and I was considering canning the phone until I learned this.
Very interested in your review though, as I have a 4S but have never been an apple user until this... I'd like to be on a GIII for the screen size, if it has good phone audio quality, battery life, and decent voice commands hooked up to a bluetooth headset.
(I do a LOT of business while commuting, using a headset and dictating to my phone. My Palm phone had better voice command integration for do lists and email and texting and calling folks than my 4S, and it DIDN'T send every voice command I made to some apple-server somewhere for a response but was native on the phone).
Very interested in your review though, as I have a 4S but have never been an apple user until this... I'd like to be on a GIII for the screen size, if it has good phone audio quality, battery life, and decent voice commands hooked up to a bluetooth headset.
(I do a LOT of business while commuting, using a headset and dictating to my phone. My Palm phone had better voice command integration for do lists and email and texting and calling folks than my 4S, and it DIDN'T send every voice command I made to some apple-server somewhere for a response but was native on the phone).
I have a G3, my wife has a Iphone 4S. I would trade her after 2 months with the G3. One of the things I really noticed was in low reception areas which is often with Sprint my wife can make and receive calls on her Iphone when I can't. Several times recently I have had to ask to borrow her phone to make a call. Its seems apple has better reception.
12-12-2012, 01:52 PM
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Growth to LHR? What did CAL pay for 4 slots?
What is missing from many of these discussions is the reality of being the one national airline of a country. If we wanted a agreement with AirFrance where we flew half the departures or half the seats ect.. it would relegate AirFrance to a bit player or put them out of business. They fly all the French flights to the US while we fly only a small portion of the US flights to France. There would never be a alliance with AirFrance in the first place if such conditions were insisted on. Under the AF joint venture we saw massive expansion in the flying to Europe. We have lost some of that with the collapse in the economy in Europe however we still have more then in the past.
I have seen my schedules and time off decimated by what has happened in Europe. I am living it first hand. The forum here wants to cast blame on someone. They think we should fly flights and lose money. Management has a different opinion. There is a reality in working in a industry so dependent on outside economic conditions. Delta has come through the issues in the last 4 years in great shape and the pilot group has made large gains without putting anyone on the street. That in and off itself is a amazing achievement given the conditions.
We are told on the forum when Europe recovers we will not see the flying, yet in the last boom in Europe we saw a large increase even though we were aligned with AF. When the Far East collapsed in 09 we saw a large pull back and down gauge in the flights there. We parked 4 747's and moved larger aircraft to Europe. They have recovered and so has the Delta flying.
The contract is specific on JV flying. I expect the union to enforce that contract but some of the posts here have no basis on reality. The quote of the money should be a copilot who stated in the lounge that he would be a WB Captain now if we did not have any alliances. Far more likely is that he would be furloughed now or perhaps Delta would be out of business. Its a global economy and like it or not no airline can build the type of network needed to survive solo. Even the Great in his own mind Richard Branson has finally figured that out despite the unique situation of flying out of a airport with no expansion allowed to increase competition.
What is missing from many of these discussions is the reality of being the one national airline of a country. If we wanted a agreement with AirFrance where we flew half the departures or half the seats ect.. it would relegate AirFrance to a bit player or put them out of business. They fly all the French flights to the US while we fly only a small portion of the US flights to France. There would never be a alliance with AirFrance in the first place if such conditions were insisted on. Under the AF joint venture we saw massive expansion in the flying to Europe. We have lost some of that with the collapse in the economy in Europe however we still have more then in the past.
I have seen my schedules and time off decimated by what has happened in Europe. I am living it first hand. The forum here wants to cast blame on someone. They think we should fly flights and lose money. Management has a different opinion. There is a reality in working in a industry so dependent on outside economic conditions. Delta has come through the issues in the last 4 years in great shape and the pilot group has made large gains without putting anyone on the street. That in and off itself is a amazing achievement given the conditions.
We are told on the forum when Europe recovers we will not see the flying, yet in the last boom in Europe we saw a large increase even though we were aligned with AF. When the Far East collapsed in 09 we saw a large pull back and down gauge in the flights there. We parked 4 747's and moved larger aircraft to Europe. They have recovered and so has the Delta flying.
The contract is specific on JV flying. I expect the union to enforce that contract but some of the posts here have no basis on reality. The quote of the money should be a copilot who stated in the lounge that he would be a WB Captain now if we did not have any alliances. Far more likely is that he would be furloughed now or perhaps Delta would be out of business. Its a global economy and like it or not no airline can build the type of network needed to survive solo. Even the Great in his own mind Richard Branson has finally figured that out despite the unique situation of flying out of a airport with no expansion allowed to increase competition.
Is it not completely apparent to you that there has been gross stagnation at Delta?
While his quote may be an exageration, at some airlines it is not an exageration at all...Hawaiian being one, Air France another, probably Virgin, and likely others with whom we are allied.
Our company is shrivelling and it is not without the assistance of the only bargaining agent we have.
People talk about Virgin Capts being so poorly paid. I'd like to know how quick their upgrades have been, time value of money and all. Hawaiian has 2004 A330 Captains.
We are married to this company. That doesn't mean we should just bend over. Some of us just aren't in the mood for that. We do what we can to help DAL succeed, but with record dollars coming in, our acquiescence has resulted in further marginalization of the DAL pilots.
12-12-2012, 01:58 PM
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But DALPA will never, every admit we are losing flying on the top end. They will plow blindly ahead e repeating that all JVs are good for us, and we always got the "Best deal we could."
Meanwhile, our (Delta pilots') relevance dwindles.
12-12-2012, 02:12 PM
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12-12-2012, 02:33 PM
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12-12-2012, 02:43 PM
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Unfortunately quoting beats the ignore filter...
He has made some real "varsity" comments, hasn't he.
Nice that he chastises for condescension when on the same page he admits he's being snarky in his arguments with those trying to provide some factual info.
He has made some real "varsity" comments, hasn't he.
Nice that he chastises for condescension when on the same page he admits he's being snarky in his arguments with those trying to provide some factual info.
12-12-2012, 02:47 PM
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Some of the last few posts have made me cringe.
I'm just a nobody and I don't have any power, not a moderator or anything like that but I have a humble suggestion about the philosophy on here regarding people's identity.
I think its important to keep up at least the pretense of anonymity on here.
I know its a pretty thin fig leaf sometimes but I would urge people not to post stuff that would identify individuals with their screen names. If somebody wants to out themselves then that is fine, but I don't think someone else should out them.
On a related note, I think its silly to use some of the initials the way we do. For instance, why say that the President of ALPA is "LM"? That's just dumb. The elected officials and even committee guys sign up for those positions fully expecting to be publicly criticised or praised or whatever. It comes with the territory. I think we should go ahead and say their names.
If I want to say that Lee Moak or Kingsley Roberts is a bum then it should be OK to say it. They ran for public office. They are big boys. They can take it.
What I don't think we should do is identify who is who by associating them with their anonymous screen name on this board.
I don't want to know who any of you guys are.
Sorry for the rant. just my 2 cents.
I'm just a nobody and I don't have any power, not a moderator or anything like that but I have a humble suggestion about the philosophy on here regarding people's identity.
I think its important to keep up at least the pretense of anonymity on here.
I know its a pretty thin fig leaf sometimes but I would urge people not to post stuff that would identify individuals with their screen names. If somebody wants to out themselves then that is fine, but I don't think someone else should out them.
On a related note, I think its silly to use some of the initials the way we do. For instance, why say that the President of ALPA is "LM"? That's just dumb. The elected officials and even committee guys sign up for those positions fully expecting to be publicly criticised or praised or whatever. It comes with the territory. I think we should go ahead and say their names.
If I want to say that Lee Moak or Kingsley Roberts is a bum then it should be OK to say it. They ran for public office. They are big boys. They can take it.
What I don't think we should do is identify who is who by associating them with their anonymous screen name on this board.
I don't want to know who any of you guys are.
Sorry for the rant. just my 2 cents.
But I agree with what you said in priciple. I don't want to know who Timbo is...at least not on here.
And that anonymous acl65 where did he come from? Who the H,E, double toothpicks is Buzzpat?Heck the rest, I don't care about either. You can tell when the MEC guys come on here, but it isn't important to know who they are. In fact, sometimes its more fun to duel with them anonymously. If Slow and Alfa are back on the line, great, but I dont dislike them even though often I disagree with them. Flying Delta jets is a good job with good folks.
Anonymity is good for everyone here.
Except Boomer.
Last edited by scambo1; 12-12-2012 at 02:57 PM.
12-12-2012, 03:04 PM
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kicked out? quit? I don't care. good riddance.
you have been the purveyor of the most dishonest, condescending, and arrogant tripe--it defies comprehension.
As far as I can tell, you never advocated for the line pilot. You were all about protecting your "good ol' boy" network at DALPA, and keeping your cushy situation intact.
AMF.
you have been the purveyor of the most dishonest, condescending, and arrogant tripe--it defies comprehension.
As far as I can tell, you never advocated for the line pilot. You were all about protecting your "good ol' boy" network at DALPA, and keeping your cushy situation intact.
AMF.
12-12-2012, 03:32 PM
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kicked out? quit? I don't care. good riddance.
you have been the purveyor of the most dishonest, condescending, and arrogant tripe--it defies comprehension.
As far as I can tell, you never advocated for the line pilot. You were all about protecting your "good ol' boy" network at DALPA, and keeping your cushy situation intact.
AMF.
you have been the purveyor of the most dishonest, condescending, and arrogant tripe--it defies comprehension.
As far as I can tell, you never advocated for the line pilot. You were all about protecting your "good ol' boy" network at DALPA, and keeping your cushy situation intact.
AMF.
12-12-2012, 03:35 PM
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Sailing;
Is it not completely apparent to you that there has been gross stagnation at Delta?
While his quote may be an exageration, at some airlines it is not an exageration at all...Hawaiian being one, Air France another, probably Virgin, and likely others with whom we are allied.
Our company is shrivelling and it is not without the assistance of the only bargaining agent we have.
People talk about Virgin Capts being so poorly paid. I'd like to know how quick their upgrades have been, time value of money and all. Hawaiian has 2004 A330 Captains.
We are married to this company. That doesn't mean we should just bend over. Some of us just aren't in the mood for that. We do what we can to help DAL succeed, but with record dollars coming in, our acquiescence has resulted in further marginalization of the DAL pilots.
Is it not completely apparent to you that there has been gross stagnation at Delta?
While his quote may be an exageration, at some airlines it is not an exageration at all...Hawaiian being one, Air France another, probably Virgin, and likely others with whom we are allied.
Our company is shrivelling and it is not without the assistance of the only bargaining agent we have.
People talk about Virgin Capts being so poorly paid. I'd like to know how quick their upgrades have been, time value of money and all. Hawaiian has 2004 A330 Captains.
We are married to this company. That doesn't mean we should just bend over. Some of us just aren't in the mood for that. We do what we can to help DAL succeed, but with record dollars coming in, our acquiescence has resulted in further marginalization of the DAL pilots.
Since the merger with NW the economy has been one of the worst overall since the great depression. Show me a airline with operations comparable to Delta that has been in a large growth mode since 2007. Emerates is perhaps the closest example but they are a very different operation from Delta. Every airline in our class has furloughed. We did not.
There is no doubt that there has been stagnation to the extreme. You say its all DALPA's fault and I think its the economy. We are each entitled to our opinions. I tend to be a results oriented person. Since the merger with NW Delta has not furloughed a single pilot. We are one of two US airlines to achieve meaningful improvements in our contract. We will be up over 30 percent in pay over that time period. The next best airline in the industry will be SW up 7 percent. No one else will be up a dime until the UAL contract is ratified. We have made numerous improvements in quality of life in the contract. When I look at results I always compare them to how other subsets are doing. By any measure we have been light years more successful then other comparable airlines.
We just signed a contract that so far is delivering exactly as promised. We are adding pilots, we are adding Captains jobs. For the first time we have meaningful growth. The last two bids added net Captains jobs and the next bid will really have a substantial addition. That will be followed by similar bids for the next several years all based on growth in mainline block hours. At that point retirements kick in with a bang. Not one other US airline has a future looking as bright.
Again everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that we weathered one of the worst periods in US history for airlines far better then anyone else and are now poised for the growth we all are desperate to see. If the economy turns around the resulting movement could be far better then the eighties boom times.
in 2005 I was planning my new career after Delta shut down. I tend to be a optimist but I could not imagine Delta would be where it is today back then and that was without knowing that the future held a massive economic crash. Again for me its all about results.
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