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Old 12-07-2012, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
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Butch Jones? Who the he!! is Butch freakin' Jones? I've at least heard of Malzhan...
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We are in effect hiring. They are getting virtually every mil leave pilot back. These are the guys who went out 10 years ago. They all have their 20 years in now and are coming back in far greater percentages
Then expected. In addition the fact we are running the best airline Delta has seen in 25 years has resulted in far fewer pilots needed. Over 100 new CA positions were created in the last 2 bids and between 100 and 150 new CA positions are expected on the next bid.
On the first run our last AE had 257 displacements. By juggling the numbers they held a few folks (backfilled) and got the pain down to 100 displacements. Only 62 First Officers moved to Captain.

Next bid will close the Atlanta 767 category and reduce A320 staffing. The 101 Captains and 116 First Officers on the 767 are senior. They will start the 717 with 100 crews. I'll be surprised if they get through that bid without 450 displacements. A lot will hinge on how many they put on the 7ER.

Is it correct to represent these as "new" Captain positions when the only thing new for the Captain is learning to flare about 40 feet lower to the ground than they have for the last decade.

Look forward to learning more about the Boeing 727 and F4 ... Recently even been learning about Convairs ... ( no, not kidding )

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
On the first run our last AE had 257 displacements. By juggling the numbers they held a few folks (backfilled) and got the pain down to 100 displacements. Only 62 First Officers moved to Captain.

Next bid will close the Atlanta 767 category and reduce A320 staffing. The 101 Captains and 116 First Officers on the 767 are senior. They will start the 717 with 100 crews. I'll be surprised if they get through that bid without 450 displacements. A lot will hinge on how many they put on the 7ER.

Is it correct to represent these as "new" Captain positions when the only thing new for the Captain is learning to flare about 40 feet lower to the ground than they have for the last decade.

Look forward to learning more about the Boeing 727 and F4 ... Recently even been learning about Convairs ... ( no, not kidding )
All that flying currently being done on the domestic 767 has to go somewhere. I'll go out on a limb and say that I believe it is not going to the 717.... so... I would think it fair to surmise that many of those domestic 767 guys WILL be going to the 7ER. There MIGHT be a few that don't.. but I'll wager many just get a new qual.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Butch Jones? Who the he!! is Butch freakin' Jones? I've at least heard of Malzhan...
Sorry T, I'm underwhelmed by that choice. All 4 of the Head Ball Coach picks in the SEC are yawners. AU picks a DC who went 0-12 in his only season at Southern Miss?
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:36 AM
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We have a new CP for JFK, RT. Used to be a CP in the ATL office. AT will also be retiring from her Flight Ops Managers position, she will be missed.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by erk13
For most Delta pilots the news today about the CRJ order was painful to hear. Not unexpected, but either way you voted, not the way you wanted to start your day. I'm sure Delta got a hell of a deal on the jets and wrangled the elimination of additional 50 seaters, but the one thing nobody is talking about is that the far superior product lost out. The EMB jets have better seats, more overhead space....not even close. Watching people line the jetway to wait for their bags to be humped up is pathetic. Beancounters win again.
There are far more airlines operating the CRJ-900 than the ERJ-175. It makes labor whipsaw much easier when you have lots of airlines underbidding each other instead of just 2. Doesn't that make the most cents?

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
All that flying currently being done on the domestic 767 has to go somewhere. ...


Excusez-moi ... Bump, bump, bump



BUMP, BUMP, Bump


To be continued ...
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:46 AM
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Bump bump bump, plus our "new hires" ... flying until they ... .


Could even mean ... bump ... back to ... .

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
"That's what put us into Bankruptcy! Everyone knows the real money is in South America!"
The irony of that is that every airline that operated either package of the original PanAm South American route structure, including PanAm, Panagra, Braniff, Eastern, United and American, went bankrupt, and 4 are gone completely.

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The irony of that is that every airline that operated either package of the original PanAm South American route structure, including PanAm, Panagra, Braniff, Eastern, United and American, went bankrupt, and 4 are gone completely.

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It is a pretty safe bet to say EVERY airline has gone bankrupt since deregulation. Much easier then to admit the error(s) in that claim (Southwest, Alaska, Sprint, Skywest and Alligient) than list the 160 that have filed and 20 that have filed since the year 2000.
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